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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)

Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
So the CDC is STILL spouting the talking point that the vaccine is 2x more effective than natural immunity based on their very small scale Kentucky study. The actual study clearly says that NO CAUSATION should be taken from the study bc of the small scale and numerous limitations which include their admission that 1. at the time vaccinated people were probably less likely to even be tested with basically and 2. there were issues matching names of those infected with the vaccine rosters from the state’s records. Also the study was conducted PRIOR to Delta variant becoming prolific in the US.

Israel produces an ENORMOUS SCALE study on Pfizer vaccine efficacy vs Natural Immunity vs Pfizer + NI and the results were clearly that both provided great protection but NI provides even better protection against the current at the time prominent variant (Delta). Israel is a single healthcare system so they have ALL the data unlike the US who has to assemble the data from multiple healthcare providers.

Just the other day, the US Surgeon General was touting the 2x number in an interview. You want to know why people mistrust the media and the medical community talking heads? It is because stuff like this. It is obvious they think we are stupid and that we NEED to be told what to do instead of thinking for ourselves. Honestly many Americans want to be told what to do and NOT think for themselves so we as a group are also part to blame.

In closing, Israel Study proved both Pfizer and NI worked great against Delta but NI was stronger. Let’s just acknowledge that fact and leave the NI folks alone (there are tests for antibodies and TCells to confirm).

Here are the links to the studies if you want to see for yourselves.

Israel Study

CDC Kentucky Study

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31409 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:07 am to
Can’t devalue that jab. Too much money is on the line.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2331 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:08 am to
If you still listen to the CDC, you’re a brainwashed moron
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12745 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:10 am to
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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)

Of course they do, because if they didn't, everyone that doesn't want the shot would dig their heels in even more.

"Follow the Science"
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:11 am to
Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101931 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:13 am to
quote:

CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity


I've got both.


Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66592 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:15 am to
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2x More Effective


but..... effective at what? they changed the definition of vaccine to fit their agenda.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:17 am to
Gotta sell them shots baw
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25753 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to
They know where their bread is buttered.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120604 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to
I don’t really care about the natural immunity folks, it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40046 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:42 am to
Excellent post! From the very beginning - when Fauci lied to us, saying masks would do no good (he was trying to protect the supply chain) - the government has taken the view that we must be manipulated. Contrast that to Sweden, which trusted its citizens, never locked down, and for which the pandemic is over.

For folks who never caught the disease, the vaccination is a no-brainer. All of the worries about side effects are foolish, because the chances of side effects from catching Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks from the vaccine, which are so low they are effectively zero.

Masks are a stupid, ineffective, virtue-signalling nuisance. Less than 10% of folks in Sweden wear masks while on public transportation.

These are the facts about Covid. There will be folks on both the left and right who disagree with some of them. Those folks are either pitifully stupid or they are blinded by misplaced ideology.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24731 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:48 am to
Twitter - Australia sees 78% of hospitalizations coming from Fully jabbed


Australia is coming out of their flu season and have been averaging 78% of their hospitalization are fully vaccinated.

We're in for a long winter here.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:53 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6583 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:00 am to
As I've said previously, the vaccine mandates are 100% about the government "saving" you. Naturally acquired immunity does not require "saving", so it is dismissed by the government.

We won't even get into the possibility that the government is the bad guy that started the entire pandemic.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24731 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:10 am to


Twitter


I saw this movie once..
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13071 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:16 am to
Do you not trust the CDC on other diseases, viruses etc? Or is it just on this subject?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Israel Report Ignored
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48973 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:57 am to
Why won't the CDC come out with the numbers of re-infection? It must not be high at all because if it was that would be all over the news. If they were honest about reinfection numbers it would show NI is doing its job. But we can't have that info can we? Gott follow their science.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18804 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:19 am to
These idiots are like Germany invading Russia. If they were just a little honest and likable they’d have a chance to win some people over. The fact that the lies are so blatant even their own supporters are being turned off
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79175 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:22 am to
The collapse of TRUTH in our culture is profoundly sad for us. Nobody expects it and nobody gets it. Those of us who still value it are essentially cultural dissidents. We are on the margins of the culture, quaint in our hope for a return of the eternal virtues.
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