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re: 2nd plane from an angle I had not seen.

Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:29 am to
Posted by CBLSU316
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:29 am to
I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 8:30 am
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
16508 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:32 am to
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I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.


Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5921 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:37 am to
Read the 9/11 report. It was not an inside job, but it was pretty clear they knew something was about to happen. Only a handful of folks at the FBI put it together , but they couldn’t get through the internal bureaucracy in time for anyone to authorize them to follow, bug or search the people of interest. Once the second plane hit, they all put it together real fast, which is why they leaked “who did it” by 11 AM and put the Saudis on the plane out of the country.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:51 am to
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Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.


Surely somebody reported to the FBI (or someone) these Saudi guys were looking to learn how to fly passenger jets? Especially given the fact, they were not interested in how to land the thing, but only how to take-off and fly the airplane.

Also given there had already been an attack on the Twin Towers in 1993, I simply cannot believe our domestic intelligence assets did not know about the activities of these terrorist.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:11 am to
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.

Ok, here’s a tip. Something big is coming.

Now that you know that, how are you going to prevent a specific something big at multiple unspecified locations on an unspecified date?
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5959 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:15 am to
US Intelligence had this figured out. I’d read a magazine article months before 9/11 that said bin laden wanted to hijack planes and use them in weapons. They’ed already attacked the building with a truck bomb in 93 or 94.
We knew that Muslim students were doing pilot training and were a threat.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:32 am to
We know they knew. 12 countries told us and that didn’t even include our own intelligence. They were specific enough to have the week of Sept 9th and with high jacked airplanes. Bush was getting the warnings in his morning notes. Their response? Take all of our planes to Canada and Alaska and play war games
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29508 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:43 am to
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming.


It's common knowledge that the intelligence agencies were saying for over a year before 9/11 that Al Queda was planning a major attack on American soil.

Due to interagency distrust and squabbles that were common at the time basically nobody listened to anybody else.

There was a lot of bullshite in the Patriot Act...a lot like 99.9%....the .1% good was the data sharing that it facilitated between all levels of law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:44 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
64109 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:46 am to
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming.


Specific threats about OBL seeking to hijack commercial airliners was in the Presidential Daily Briefing on Aug 6, 2001, IIRC.

34 days before 9/11.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17732 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:11 am to
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.there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming


I still think 9/11 was a failure of the Clinton Administration. They had to know something.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28709 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:00 am to
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I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.


there is a pretty in depth documentary about our tracking of the hijackers up to that point. in short, we knew they were up to no good ever since they got here.

i'll try to find it

Road to 9/11 - History Channel
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7268 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it


Well, the Israelis knew it was coming, because they had a camera crew across the bay recording it.

(And sorry, debunkers, but even the FBI reports states that at least two of them were known Mossad agents and their "moving company" was a Mossad front).

That can mean only two things: One, they knew and told our government and our government did nothing to prevent it, or Two, they knew and DIDN'T tell our government, and in that case, there goes the whole "our greatest ally" thing.

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.


Multiple FBI Field agents and offices reported actions of the terrorists in the year prior to 9/11, including their suspicious flight training. The FBI brass ignored it.

Then there's this:

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Attorney general Janet Reno testified that information that could have prevented the September 11 attacks was mishandled by the FBI at the time Freeh was the director of the FBI.


Also, there is the case of Thomas Pickard, who was involved in the case of the first WTC bombing:

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The FBI's bureaucracy, and Pickard in particular, has been implicated as an opponent of FBI agent John P. O'Neill who led the FBI's investigation into Osama Bin Laden prior to the September 11 attacks. A leak to The New York Times in August 2001 regarding a security breach by O'Neill[3] resulted in O'Neill leaving public service. Pickard has been alleged to be the source of the leak.[4] O'Neill took work as the director of security at the World Trade Center, where he was killed on September 11, 2001



I recommend reading the book "The Man Who Warned America" about John O'Neill and take a quick read through his wikipedia page. The FBI and CIA knew exactly what was going on, on 9/11.

They they sent Robert Mueller in to work his specialty, covering up crimes.

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