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Coach O-his final decision on hires...
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:20 pm
I know everyone in here says Coach O would not be crap without Brady, Aranda, and Joe Burrow...well, it was Coach O who hired Brady, decided to keep Aranda as his DC, and decided to give Burrow a chance fully understanding he needed an experienced QB-he evaluated Burrow and gave him a shot. That's what a good coach does, it's what a good manager does in the business world-hire good people to get the job done...as for x's and o's, I am not in the film room with them-I am not at practice-none of us in here are.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:22 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Yes O hired Brady only after Ensminger told him we have to did a way to hire him
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:22 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
The problem is those results can't be consistently replicated. And he has done a poor job of replacing vacancies.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:24 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Bill Busch recruited and brought Burrow for starters. Dave Aranda is one of the best defensive minds in the game and O would have never fired him. Also Steve Esminger noticed Brady and begged O to hire him... fail much?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:26 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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Coach O-his final decision on hires
Does he?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:26 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Are you being serious? Difficult to tell...
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:28 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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Burrow...well, it was Coach O who hired Brady, decided to keep Aranda as his DC, and decided to give Burrow a chance fully understanding he needed an experienced QB-he evaluated Burrow and gave him a shot.
Agree with all of this. Throw in Greg McMahon too. He's been awesome.
Other than that, what final decisions are you happy with as of right now?
Eta: I would say that it's actually more impressive that Orgeron was ABLE to keep Aranda twice vs deciding to keep him.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:28 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Noticed in your bio you are State alum, explains your post.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:29 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Joe Alleva forced Orgeron to keep Aranda. Remember when they were all watching film together with Canada because Orgeron is a petulant child that couldn’t be professional with his OC? So Alleva put him in timeout like a child?
I remember.
I remember.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:34 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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know everyone in here says Coach O would not be crap without Brady, Aranda, and Joe Burrow.
For the record, I said Coach O IS crap without the Joes and Aranda
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:35 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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StarkvilleTigerFan
What part of the massive problem that LSU fans have with O is everything he’s done post National Championship?
I think most LSU fans think like I do. I’m happy to give O credit for the National Title. But, with that credit for winning the title, comes the blame for going 5-6 post title.
O is the perfect case study on how NOT to handle success. Everything he’s done post championship has been an absolute train wreck.
O will go down in college football history as one of the biggest coaching failures after winning a National Title.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:39 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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well, it was Coach O who hired Brady
Literally his only hire that has panned out. Congrats.
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decided to keep Aranda as his DC
Know how I know you don’t know what you’re talking about? O didn’t like Aranda and hated his scheme. Aranda staying on was literally a condition of O’s employment.
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decided to give Burrow a chance fully understanding he needed an experienced QB-he e
Because he whiffed on a QB recruit the previous season.
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That's what a good coach does, it's what a good manager does in the business world-hire good people to get the job done
O publicly admitted that he doesn’t interview his hires. This is not what good coaches or managers do.
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I am not in the film room with them-I am not at practice-none of us in here are.
LSU is a consistent top-10 program in terms of recruiting. Biggest assistant coaching budgets, and one of the biggest analyst staffs. It just got its arse beat by a Pac12 team that won 10 games the previous three years. O should be fired yesterday for the on and off field issues that have constantly plagued him.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:46 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
From the moment he was named the interim HC Ed IMMEDIATELY began a campaign to try to get the permanent HC job because he knew he wasn't going to be considered as serious candidate otherwise. His "binder" pitch to Alleva had many pages. But the main aspects re: the staff were he was going to keep Aranda as DC and hire Lane Kiffin away from Bama as OC. O had to keep Aranda. It was part of his hail mary effort to get the job. The promise to deliver Kiffin fell through and he had to scramble to find a "name" to fulfill his campaign promises.
So he hired Matt Canada, a hot name at the time. Three games into Canada's LSU tenure O hated the offense and wanted to get rid of him.
So in 2018 he promotes a guy, Ensminger, who was member of the much maligned Miles offensive staff and who didn't really want the OC job because of the burden it would bring upon him at that stage in his career. Think about it. O had to basically BEG a guy, who had no market demand whatsoever, to be the OC.
Going into 2019 ENSMINGER knew his offense wasn't going to elevate the program to the top of the mountain. (Perhaps is was the ZERO points in 8 quarters vs. Alabama, but who knows?). So ENSMINGER happily requested and accepted help from a young analyst on the Saints staff. And he happily ceded much of the load and designing of the approach to that guy. It worked out brilliantly.
In 2020 O had to replace BOTH coordinators. He was doing so following a remarkable championship season at a school with tremendous resources and the willingness to spend huge money to attract top coaches. With that, Ed hires two guys with virtually ZERO market demand to take the positions. It was wreck.
Following that in 2021 Ed has to, again, hire new coordinators. The FIFTH time he's had to hire an OC in five years. The heat is on to make sure he doesn't miss again on these hires. So what does he do? Hires two guys who have never been D-1 coordinators and who have ZERO market demand for their services as coordinators.
Perhaps Peetz/Jones work out the rest of the year. I certainly hope so. But assuming they don't for the sake of argument then that will make SEVEN coordinator hires Ed will have made in 5 years with only ONE producing great results. Does that sound like a good coach who knows what he is doing? Or does it sound like a guy who is just throwing darts at the board blindly and got incredibly lucky one of his seven darts hit the bullseye with the other 6 either barely hitting the board or missing the board completely?
So he hired Matt Canada, a hot name at the time. Three games into Canada's LSU tenure O hated the offense and wanted to get rid of him.
So in 2018 he promotes a guy, Ensminger, who was member of the much maligned Miles offensive staff and who didn't really want the OC job because of the burden it would bring upon him at that stage in his career. Think about it. O had to basically BEG a guy, who had no market demand whatsoever, to be the OC.
Going into 2019 ENSMINGER knew his offense wasn't going to elevate the program to the top of the mountain. (Perhaps is was the ZERO points in 8 quarters vs. Alabama, but who knows?). So ENSMINGER happily requested and accepted help from a young analyst on the Saints staff. And he happily ceded much of the load and designing of the approach to that guy. It worked out brilliantly.
In 2020 O had to replace BOTH coordinators. He was doing so following a remarkable championship season at a school with tremendous resources and the willingness to spend huge money to attract top coaches. With that, Ed hires two guys with virtually ZERO market demand to take the positions. It was wreck.
Following that in 2021 Ed has to, again, hire new coordinators. The FIFTH time he's had to hire an OC in five years. The heat is on to make sure he doesn't miss again on these hires. So what does he do? Hires two guys who have never been D-1 coordinators and who have ZERO market demand for their services as coordinators.
Perhaps Peetz/Jones work out the rest of the year. I certainly hope so. But assuming they don't for the sake of argument then that will make SEVEN coordinator hires Ed will have made in 5 years with only ONE producing great results. Does that sound like a good coach who knows what he is doing? Or does it sound like a guy who is just throwing darts at the board blindly and got incredibly lucky one of his seven darts hit the bullseye with the other 6 either barely hitting the board or missing the board completely?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:53 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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well, it was Coach O who hired Brady
SE found brady and told Ed to hire him
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decided to keep Aranda as his DC,
He was told to keep Aranda by alleva
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decided to give Burrow a chance fully understanding he needed an experienced QB-he evaluated Burrow and gave him a shot.
He was told to offer Joe by…Busch, I think. But he was told too.
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That's what a good coach does,
He has D. Ponasky looking for and vetting potential hires….his FN pr manager.
He hired Canada without interviewing…he hired Bo without interviewing!
He hired the DC and OC off recommendations…told too again.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:37 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Derek’s gestapo are out in full force
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:40 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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it's what a good manager does in the business world-hire good people to get the job done
Does a good manager promise to hire only the best......
Then hire a has-been with no interview, fire him 1 year later, then hire a replacement with zero experience holding the title he now holds?
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as for x's and o's, I am not in the film room with them-I am not at practice-none of us in here are.
After last Saturday, I am not sure most of the coaches are in there either.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 7:31 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
How long do we live on 2019? He's hired what? 5 + assistance since Brady?
Tell me how those hires have worked out
Tell me how those hires have worked out
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