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2014-like Defensive Turnaround?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:24 am
Is it possible that a lot of our issues defensively can be solved by replacing a single player like we did in 2014?
For those who don't recall, the 2014 defense was terribel at the start of the year against Wisky and Mississippi State and then we removed DJ Welter from the field and inserted Kendall Beckwith and we became stout af eventually knocking off #3 ranked Ole Miss in a defensive grudge match.
If we just take Damone Clark off the field and ride with Bugg Strong and Micah Baskerville does anyone think its possible that the defense looks a significant amount better?
I get that we don't have a Beckwith to put in but just removing the guy that is never in the right spot and can't find a crossing route with a map could do wonders for the other 11 players on the field.
For those who don't recall, the 2014 defense was terribel at the start of the year against Wisky and Mississippi State and then we removed DJ Welter from the field and inserted Kendall Beckwith and we became stout af eventually knocking off #3 ranked Ole Miss in a defensive grudge match.
If we just take Damone Clark off the field and ride with Bugg Strong and Micah Baskerville does anyone think its possible that the defense looks a significant amount better?
I get that we don't have a Beckwith to put in but just removing the guy that is never in the right spot and can't find a crossing route with a map could do wonders for the other 11 players on the field.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:25 am to Bert Macklin FBI
It’s not just 18. It’s also safety play too
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:25 am to Bert Macklin FBI
I hate to say it but Baskerville is part of the problem. I'll go light on Bugg because he just got here.
Blow it up and give me White, Sampah, and Who Mike Jones.
It literally could not be worse
Blow it up and give me White, Sampah, and Who Mike Jones.
It literally could not be worse
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:27 am to Bert Macklin FBI
#18 actually played well in the 1st half. It was #4 that open the wounds. Then everyone else started falling apart too
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:28 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Im still curious what may be possible with the likes of Sampah, White, Penn....but trying relatively nothing to change it doesnt seem like a good approach
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:31 am to Bert Macklin FBI
In some cases it's a matter of personnel. So who knows, maybe a change here or there will make a difference.
But our problems are not just personnel. They are scheme.
Chief for all the hate he gets on here was a solid DC his entire tenure. I don't think DJ is anywhere near Chief scheme wise.
But our problems are not just personnel. They are scheme.
Chief for all the hate he gets on here was a solid DC his entire tenure. I don't think DJ is anywhere near Chief scheme wise.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:34 am to Bert Macklin FBI
It wasn’t a single player that turned around that defense.
We trotted our Davon Godchaux as a freshman weighing 275 pounds soaking wet at DT with a true sophomore in Christian LaCouture next to him. Quentin Thomas was out with a torn bicep.
It took a lot of growing up for the young guys for that defense to come into its own. Jalen Mills, Jalen Collins, Tre’Davious White, and Ronald Martin grew up quick. Jamal Adams also shined. Kwon was the brightest star next to Beckwith and Deion Jones was finally coming into what we had seen years prior when he was a freshman.
My point is, it was young guys that grew up. Not older guys all around and just Beckwith coming in for Welter. We need a youth movement. Josh White, Antoine Sampah, Roy, Smith, Langlois, Ryan etc all need to be on that field competing.
We trotted our Davon Godchaux as a freshman weighing 275 pounds soaking wet at DT with a true sophomore in Christian LaCouture next to him. Quentin Thomas was out with a torn bicep.
It took a lot of growing up for the young guys for that defense to come into its own. Jalen Mills, Jalen Collins, Tre’Davious White, and Ronald Martin grew up quick. Jamal Adams also shined. Kwon was the brightest star next to Beckwith and Deion Jones was finally coming into what we had seen years prior when he was a freshman.
My point is, it was young guys that grew up. Not older guys all around and just Beckwith coming in for Welter. We need a youth movement. Josh White, Antoine Sampah, Roy, Smith, Langlois, Ryan etc all need to be on that field competing.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 11:40 am to Bert Macklin FBI
I guarantee we'll find out Saturday because every defensive player is gonna get a look with the ones. It'll be easy to see who is out of position.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:06 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
We have the personnel to turn it around, minus 18, 22, 21, 28, 5, & 4.
The issue is coaching. Our LB coach is awful. Clark was jumping into the wrong gap almost every single run play.
The issue is coaching. Our LB coach is awful. Clark was jumping into the wrong gap almost every single run play.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:29 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
You and others that are extremely down on Clark don't know what you're talking about. The idea just became trendy here on this board, so posters keep repeating it.
Are there areas he can improve? Of course. But he showed high-level speed and range vs. UCLA. And in a game that tackling was shoddy, he was a strong tackler.
I've seen this happen with certain players over the years. Danielle Hunter is one. On the flip side, there are players that get "overrated" by posters on this board (e.g., Dworaczyk, Delpit), but somehow or another it became "trendy" so posters repeated it.
The LBs played well at times, but did get taken out of too many plays by UCLA blocking. Some of that, you just have to give credit to UCLA. Major lapses in coverage, though. Thompson-Robinson isn't even that good of a passer, but he had guys running wide open.
Are there areas he can improve? Of course. But he showed high-level speed and range vs. UCLA. And in a game that tackling was shoddy, he was a strong tackler.
I've seen this happen with certain players over the years. Danielle Hunter is one. On the flip side, there are players that get "overrated" by posters on this board (e.g., Dworaczyk, Delpit), but somehow or another it became "trendy" so posters repeated it.
The LBs played well at times, but did get taken out of too many plays by UCLA blocking. Some of that, you just have to give credit to UCLA. Major lapses in coverage, though. Thompson-Robinson isn't even that good of a passer, but he had guys running wide open.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 12:50 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
By the way, if you go back and look at that TD to Chase Cota early in the 3rd Quarter, Clark was clearly telling Strong to pick him up.
First game for Strong, so not that surprising, but Clark did everything he could do to prevent that.
First game for Strong, so not that surprising, but Clark did everything he could do to prevent that.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Is it possible that a lot of our issues defensively can be solved by replacing a single player like we did in 2014?
I think you are looking at 2-4 guys, the LBs are completely out of the game. The Safeties don't want to do anything either.
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