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Solutions to Klutch
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:19 am
Spinoff thread. How do teams fight back against Lebron/Paul/Klutch?
Most of these ideas are probably not realistic but I'm throwing shite at the wall to see if anything sticks.
Ideas:
You can avoid signing Klutch clients but you can't stop them from switching once they're on the team.
Would it be possible to write language into the contract that if they sign with Klutch after signing their deal, a certain amount of money is void? Like an anti signing bonus?
Write language into the contract that the player cannot request a trade to Miami, NY, Brooklyn, LAL, LAC. Sort of like a no-trade clause but for the team's benefit.
Structure contracts so that if a player requests a trade, their contract is no longer guaranteed. They can be cut outright and go to their preferred destination but their team is not on the hook for their salary and the Lakers or whoever has to figure out a way to fit the new salary in.
Neither probably works. I think the best ultimate solution has to come at the league level.
In the Simmons/Harden/Davis situations an independent arbitrator needs to investigate any alleged tanking on the player's behalf. So if Simmons requests a trade and the Sixers say F you, and he pouts and becomes a cancer, this independent party investigates.
They could look for things like social media posts demanding trades, interview teammates/coaches, analyze statistics (pre-trade request vs. post-trade request). It gets hard because hustle isn't easy to quantifiably measure. But basically but sides could present evidence to why the player is/isn't sabotaging the team.
If they rule in favor of the team, Simmons forfeits his salary, is suspended from the league, ane the Sixers are given a cap exception to replace him.
Agents of players found guilty of sabotage are fined/suspended.
Again, none of these are realistic probably. But what would work, is the small markets to form an alliance and blackball Klutch to the best of their ability.
In the meantime, the Pels need to be smart. Do deep due diligence on all player acquisitions and try to select players who are not into the typical NBA start shite like terrible fashion and cheesy clubs.
Most of these ideas are probably not realistic but I'm throwing shite at the wall to see if anything sticks.
Ideas:
You can avoid signing Klutch clients but you can't stop them from switching once they're on the team.
Would it be possible to write language into the contract that if they sign with Klutch after signing their deal, a certain amount of money is void? Like an anti signing bonus?
Write language into the contract that the player cannot request a trade to Miami, NY, Brooklyn, LAL, LAC. Sort of like a no-trade clause but for the team's benefit.
Structure contracts so that if a player requests a trade, their contract is no longer guaranteed. They can be cut outright and go to their preferred destination but their team is not on the hook for their salary and the Lakers or whoever has to figure out a way to fit the new salary in.
Neither probably works. I think the best ultimate solution has to come at the league level.
In the Simmons/Harden/Davis situations an independent arbitrator needs to investigate any alleged tanking on the player's behalf. So if Simmons requests a trade and the Sixers say F you, and he pouts and becomes a cancer, this independent party investigates.
They could look for things like social media posts demanding trades, interview teammates/coaches, analyze statistics (pre-trade request vs. post-trade request). It gets hard because hustle isn't easy to quantifiably measure. But basically but sides could present evidence to why the player is/isn't sabotaging the team.
If they rule in favor of the team, Simmons forfeits his salary, is suspended from the league, ane the Sixers are given a cap exception to replace him.
Agents of players found guilty of sabotage are fined/suspended.
Again, none of these are realistic probably. But what would work, is the small markets to form an alliance and blackball Klutch to the best of their ability.
In the meantime, the Pels need to be smart. Do deep due diligence on all player acquisitions and try to select players who are not into the typical NBA start shite like terrible fashion and cheesy clubs.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:34 am to ghost2most
Once James retires, the agency is going to lose a lot of sway and it will diminish somewhat. But it does what it is designed to do and Paul is an effective leader. He gets things done and gets the players where they want to go. I don't understand why they want to go certain places. But his clients seem overall happy.
Honestly I don't understand our organizational direction anyway. If it were me, the team would be all rookie contracts and I'd happily ship guys before they signed an extension. Klutch would love my FO..
Honestly I don't understand our organizational direction anyway. If it were me, the team would be all rookie contracts and I'd happily ship guys before they signed an extension. Klutch would love my FO..
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:52 am to ghost2most
Boycott's never work and I'm not sure there are really any CBA remedies. The Player's Union certifies agents and it doesn't really make sense for the league to be the ones doing that. Even if they did, would the league really threaten to decertify Klutch? Boss Stern probably would have, but that doesn't seem like Silver's style.
The best solution is one the owners won't go for because they already made their decision on it. Player empowerment is a response to artificially low wages that are the result of max contracts. Max contracts are the result of teams being scared of the amount of power/responsibility given to a single player when Kevin Garnett got the first $100 million contract.
Imagine a system without max contracts where John Wall was making $60-$70 million instead of $40-$45. That single large contract could derail a franchise for the better part of a decade if catastrophic injury were to occur like it did with Wall, who also is a good illustration of "not quite a franchise player but he's the best you have so he gets the big money slot".
I just don't see the owners going away from max contracts over this.
The best solution is one the owners won't go for because they already made their decision on it. Player empowerment is a response to artificially low wages that are the result of max contracts. Max contracts are the result of teams being scared of the amount of power/responsibility given to a single player when Kevin Garnett got the first $100 million contract.
Imagine a system without max contracts where John Wall was making $60-$70 million instead of $40-$45. That single large contract could derail a franchise for the better part of a decade if catastrophic injury were to occur like it did with Wall, who also is a good illustration of "not quite a franchise player but he's the best you have so he gets the big money slot".
I just don't see the owners going away from max contracts over this.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:58 am to ghost2most
quote:
You can avoid signing Klutch clients but you can't stop them from switching once they're on the team.
Would it be possible to write language into the contract that if they sign with Klutch after signing their deal, a certain amount of money is void? Like an anti signing bonus?
Write language into the contract that the player cannot request a trade to Miami, NY, Brooklyn, LAL, LAC. Sort of like a no-trade clause but for the team's benefit.
Structure contracts so that if a player requests a trade, their contract is no longer guaranteed. They can be cut outright and go to their preferred destination but their team is not on the hook for their salary and the Lakers or whoever has to figure out a way to fit the new salary in.
none of that is possible, the standard player contract is a collectively bargained terms and conditions. only variables are years/money/options
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:13 pm to ghost2most
I think LeBron retiring would help
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:34 pm to ghost2most
Just shite in their shoes. Line up the shoes of Rich Paul, Leboo, and every client and take a giant shite in their shoes.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 7:43 pm to ghost2most
They have crushed the small market teams
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:08 pm to ghost2most
The NBA allowing an active player to run a sports agency is mind boggling. Klutch needs to not be allowed to operate while LeBron is an active player.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 3:03 pm to ghost2most
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none of these are realistic
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