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re: Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:06 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:06 pm to 00 Tech Grad
I hope it is not too late already.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:07 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Lmao yeah like the pillowguy channel or Facebook
Both of which are more reliable news sources than the New York Times or the MSMedia....try again....
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:08 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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People are too stupid to understand this.
The idea is to misrepresent a medical study to people without technical medical knowledge to stoke their fear about vaccine when the study isn't even comparing vaxxed and unvaxxed.
It's RFK's organization. He's broadly antivax. It's his soapbox.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:08 pm to Robin Masters
From deeper into the paper..
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We studied 62 breakthrough cases among healthcare workers of a major hospital for infectious diseases in Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC), Vietnam between 11th-25 June 2021. We captured the infected cases at a very early phase of the infection and carefully followed them up during hospitalization to assess the kinetic of viral loads and neutralizing antibodies, and the development of clinical symptoms. To dissect the epidemiological link and the transmission potential between the vaccinated healthcare workers, we conducted whole genome sequencing of SARS-CoV-2.
49/62 case patients were (pre)symtomatic) and all recovered uneventfully. A total of 23 complete genome sequences were obtained from the breakthrough cases. The obtained sequences were all belonged to the Delta variant, but distinct from contemporary sequences obtained from cases of community transmission in HCMC, suggesting that the ongoing transmission had occurred between vaccinated healthcare workers. Viral loads peaked at around 2-3 days before and after the development of clinical symptoms with prolonged PCR positivity of up to 33 days. Viral loads were 251 times higher than those in cases infected with old SARS-CoV-2 strains detected in Vietnam between March and April 2020.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:08 pm to Luke
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I know personally two individuals with no health issues that have died from this BS
were they put on ventilators?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:09 pm to Luke
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Otherwise spreading blatant false info serves no issue other than causing mass confusion and worsening the problem.
What are your thoughts on the Govt actively suppressing information that might save lives?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:09 pm to Luke
You can improve your odds of survival by finding a doctor who will aggressively treat the disease before it becomes so serious you are hospitalized.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:09 pm to Oddibe
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Applying this to the new LSU policy of attending home football games....requiring all ticket holders to either have a negative test or proof of vaccination. Shouldn't the vaccinated also be "required to" provide a negative test, since they are potential super spreaders?
Not if you are trying to increase the spread. Which they are.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:10 pm to ShinerHorns
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Those who got vaccinated are sick in the head. They don’t care unfortunately.
The real paradox is that the best way to protect yourself from these sickos is to get vaccinated.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:10 pm to 00 Tech Grad
If they are carrying 251 times the viral load, not only is that the source for mutations, but where the hell is their immune system and why is it allowing it?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:11 pm to 00 Tech Grad
quote:Which variants do you imagine you are talking about? TTBOMK, the last VOI to emerge was in Jan.
And probably breeding and spreading the variants.
quote:FYI, the study was conducted in Vietnam by Vietnamese researchers. Vietnam uses any vax they can get, but a large component is Sinovac. They are even accepting a Cuban homemade version.
251x viral load as unvaxxed
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:11 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
I've been saying the push for the the vax is to get them to issue a 2nd lockdown of the vaxxed. They need 70% so that supply chains would be disrupted and chaos ensues.
Trump took lockdowns off the table with warped speed. This "new science" puts them back on the table.
Great reset inbound.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:12 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
WE MUST FOLLOW THE SCIENCE
did I do it right?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:12 pm to WeeWee
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Your link is disinformation at it's finest.
This is what your link says:
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The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
and this is what the actual study says:
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Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.
LINK
Comparing breakthrough delta cases to the original covid-19 strain is a bad comparison since individuals with delta (vaccinated and unvaccinated) have 1000x higher viral load than individuals infected with the original virus.
Does not change the fact that the vaccinated, WHO ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TEST, are walking around spreading it.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:14 pm to SippyCup
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The world won’t learn because the MSM will not report it as it does not fit the narrative.
The biggest enemy of the people is misinformation from media.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:14 pm to 00 Tech Grad
AstraZeneca vaccine.. is that even available in the USA?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:14 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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And probably breeding and spreading the variants.
Oxford University Clinical Study
That's not kook or quack ramblings. Disturbing.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:16 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
They’ll never know. Too many people are utterly dependent upon cable news to tell them which way to think. They’ve been conditioned that way for years.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:16 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
thread title and OP are highly misleading, if you check the actual publication, instead of some random journalist flawed interpretation.
***it compared to the non-delta variant between march-april 2020 to current delta strain. ***
you are not comparing current viral load with current viral load, you are comparing past alpha viral load with current delta viral load. we know delta is more infectious. it makes sense that a more infectious strain would have higher viral load. also these measurements were taken in healthcare workers who have much greater exposure, makes sense they would have higher viral loads as well. it also gives an explanation that the vaccine titers were low in this population.
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