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Vaccinated easily spreading Delta with troubling high viral loads...
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:22 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:22 am
LINK
Super spreaders
It's a kook website called National Geographic....
So we have created a vaccine that turns subjects into asymptomatic carriers, great idea
Super spreaders
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preliminary study has shown that in the case of a breakthrough infection, the Delta variant is able to grow in the noses of vaccinated people to the same degree as if they were not vaccinated at all. The virus that grows is just as infectious as that in unvaccinated people, meaning vaccinated people can transmit the virus and infect others.
It's a kook website called National Geographic....
So we have created a vaccine that turns subjects into asymptomatic carriers, great idea
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:27 am
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:27 am to Strannix
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preliminary study has shown that in the case of a breakthrough infection
Breakthrough infection is kinda the important part there.
If an infection breaks through the vaccine seems likely that the viral shedding would be the same as someone unvaccinated.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:28 am to Bruco
And its breaking through
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Delta is breaking through more preferentially after vaccines as compared to the non-Delta variants” because it’s extremely infectious and evades the immune response,
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:29 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:29 am to Strannix
Which is why it’s so annoying that the Covidians keep screeching about getting your shots. They’re just as big a vector as the unvaccinated. I think it’s time to address the questionable early treatment protocols doctors are using on patients. Maybe they need to do a tad more than send you home and tell you to go to the hospital when you think you’re worse. By then it’s too late.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:29 am to Strannix
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And its breaking through
Yeah we know that.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:39 am to tigerinthebueche
Do vaccinated people have the same likelihood of hospitalization as unvaccinated? Do vaccinated have the same likelihood of serious complications, symptoms, and death as unvaccinated?
I do not think the vaccine should be mandated by government or employers. The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind.
I do not think the vaccine should be mandated by government or employers. The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:40 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:39 am to Strannix
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So we have created a vaccine that turns subjects into asymptomatic carriers, great idea
You might be missing the part where the vaccinated don’t die.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:42 am to Strannix
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Strannix
You’re no different than the government officials spewing bullshite and demanding people to get the vaccine except that you’re on the other end of the spectrum. There’s information like this everywhere, every day….we’ve all had our fill and there’s no reason to keep pushing it.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:42 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:44 am to JudgeHolden
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You might be missing the part where the vaccinated don’t die.
Then why are the Covidians obsessed with people who have a stastically zero chance of dying from it vaccinated?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I do not think the vaccine should be mandated by government or employers.
Then we are on the same side
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:53 am to Strannix
The key of course is an individual with immunity is far less likely to become infectious. Ignoring that is either a result of a lack of understanding or an intent to spread misinformation. Which is it in this case?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind
The fact that the vast, vast majority of people under 50 will never see a hospital or serious disease (similar to normal flu), and this vaccine, which allows for infection and spreading, is being shoved down their throats anyway, despite zero long term studies on MRNA complications in ANY population, BOGGLES NY MIND.
This is a crime against HUMANITY and against the post Nuremberg mantra of meducal scientists to "do no harm" ..
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:57 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Do vaccinated people have the same likelihood of hospitalization as unvaccinated? Do vaccinated have the same likelihood of serious complications, symptoms, and death as unvaccinated?
Did I suggest they didn’t? I guess one of the side effects of the vaccine is shitty reading comprehension.
Im not marginalizing the effectiveness of you precious MRNA juice to lessen the serious effects of Covid. But I am suggesting that the common practice of sending people home without any of the treatments that seem to help ( like Regeneron) needs to be re-examined. Maybe- just maybe- if they treated the symptoms more aggressively early on, the disease wouldn’t progress to the point it requires hospitalization and hospitals wouldn’t be “overwhelmed”. But they are so focused on the vaccines, they aren’t doing that.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I do not think the vaccine should be mandated by government or employers. The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind.
Absolutely. At this point if you choose not to get it then fine; but to use fear as your reason is truly absurd and makes you look foolish IMO
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:58 am to Obtuse1
Obtuse1 cant read too good
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:58 am to tigerinthebueche
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They’re just as big a vector as the unvaccinated.
A single breakthrough case may be just as big a vector as the unvaccinated but due to the much lower rate of infectious cases among those with immunity the rate of infecting other people per 100,000 will be far lower than that of unvaccinated people. It is simple math and not Diffy Qs.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:59 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind.
They aren’t being honest with the true data of vaccine issues
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 6:02 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:00 am to Kato
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Absolutely. At this point if you choose not to get it then fine; but to use fear as your reason is truly absurd and makes you look foolish IMO
A scholarly study and article from the University of Wisconsin and Scripps is fear propaganda????
Ok
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:00 am to tigerinthebueche
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But I am suggesting that the common practice of sending people home without any of the treatments that seem to help ( like Regeneron) needs to be re-examined.
You have to have it to use it. In a lot of cases the medicine isn't available in the volumes we think it is.
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