This is CSP biggest year as a head coach

Start Ian Book

This year is interesting for 1 reason to me:

Are we going to be set at QB for a decade

or

Are we going to be looking for a decade

I think he likes the amount of power he wields here, he’s basically the pseudo owner/coach/gm.

Would he win the mayor of new orleans if he rqn?

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With all the injuries and suspensions, I think it’s his easiest year in terms of expectations

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This.

Nobody expects the 2021 Saints to win the Division and go deep in the Playoffs.

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If he has a great season and produces a top level offense why would the want to bring in either Rodgers or Wilson who are at the end of their careers, especially Rodgers. I believe is they are successful it will be with Jameis Winston and he would be about the age Brees was when he became a Saint.

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Because you can win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers who is quite possibly the most efficient and deadly quarterback of our time.

You're not winning the Super Bowl with Jameis fricking Winston.

Producing offensive numbers =/= playoff victories.

Drew Brees was a Pro Bowler in 2004 and showed great progress from the time he entered the league until he became a Saint.

Jameis Winston is the same player that was drafted. No progress.

That's the difference, so no, you couldn't say the same thing about Brees. Brees was super efficient with two ~65% completion percentages in 2004 and 2005, and a TD/INT ratio of 51/22 over those 2 years, in stark contrast to his first 3 years in the league.

Winston, it could be argued, has decision-making ability that has gotten progressively worse. I keep seeing people laud his "maturity" and "development" when literally none of these things have played out for anyone to make a positive judgement on. Your expectations are not reality until proven such. Guy is the biggest cornball in the league and the most easily made-fun-of. No one takes him seriously.

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if Payton coaches Winston up to a very productive season it is just as likely Winston takes them to a Super Bowl as Rodgers within the next few seasons

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Winston has never even been to, or won a playoff game as a starter. Rodgers is in the playoffs as a highly seeded team every other year it seems like. I don't want to talk about "Winston" and "Super Bowl" until he sniffs the post-season. Guy is who he has been for 5 years in Tampa until proven otherwise.

I think the Saints are in good position.

Ideal Scenario: We either get lucky and land Wilson or Rodgers.

Expected Scenario: We go 8-9 and end up drafting around 14-17 range.

Unlikely Scenario: The shite goes bad and we end up in the Top 5-7 picks.

Any scenario is ok really. We get Rodgers or Wilson we are right back in SB contention. In the "Unlikely" scenario picking Top 5/7 we get a complete restart with a franchise QB, or you kick the QB can down the road and trade to the pick for cost-controlled assets.

For the "Expected" scenario, I don't see it as a disaster this year. We can still start shedding salary in 2022/23 and beyond, and the QB draft class looks pretty dispersed between 5-7 prospects right now (there's no Lawrence). We can potentially land a franchise QB in the middle of the 1st round.

Tank SZN

Take Spencer Rattler in the 2022 Draft.

Or bring in Aaron Rogers.

Or, maybe do BOTH