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re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...
Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:52 pm to davyjones
Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:52 pm to davyjones
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Serious question, knowing that many people around the world realize there are international approval ratings for the U.S. President, thus some sort of results must be produced and released, if Trump's ratings were relatively outstanding do you think they would be be published as is? Talking positive numbers here....
I linked you polling by Pew, an American organization.
Pew's an American organization. You'd think they'd want to make any President look good, not the other way round
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Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This fruit lives in a tiny bubble. Incapable of understanding anything outside of his little pronoun brigade.
Great rebuttal.
It's also inane considering there's also polling on the issue asking the general public, not just my bubble
Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:58 pm to DangerousWafer
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You'd think they'd want to make any President look good, not the other way round
I'm sure there's somebody that thinks that but I certainly don't, definitely not in the case of Trump. In fact I would moreso believe that a foreign organization would be at least a little more fair to Trump than a domestic one. Not that I'm trying to proclaim that my answers and beliefs are by God the correct ones. But I do feel confident. Not by God correct, but confident.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:00 pm to davyjones
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I'm sure there's somebody that thinks that but I certainly don't, definitely not in the case of Trump. In fact I would moreso believe that a foreign organization would be at least a little more fair to Trump than a domestic one. Not that I'm trying to proclaim that my answers and beliefs are by God the correct ones. But I do feel confident. Not by God correct, but confident.
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Fair enough. Here's YouGov (a British organization) polling the British public on Trump - he has a 64% disapproval rating.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:06 pm to DangerousWafer
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asking the general public
There’s your problem, dumbass.
60% of democrats prefer socialism to capitalism.
Public opinion is a terrible barometer of the effectiveness of a leader, especially given the fact that the media is heavily skewed to left wing points of view.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:07 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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60% of democrats prefer socialism to capitalism.
I doubt half could define either of them. Democrats are very confused by a few words.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:08 pm to DangerousWafer
Well were those numbers better than the Pew numbers or not? My cataracts are acting up again.
But let's go back to my original question, which didn't require any links or anything like that, it was a hypothetical question, but most accurate answer possible utilizing your observations of the world and the observations of how Trump was handled by the world media at large. Had his numbers truthfully been respectable, would the world press at large reluctantly publish as is?
But let's go back to my original question, which didn't require any links or anything like that, it was a hypothetical question, but most accurate answer possible utilizing your observations of the world and the observations of how Trump was handled by the world media at large. Had his numbers truthfully been respectable, would the world press at large reluctantly publish as is?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:10 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Public opinion is a terrible barometer of the effectiveness of a leader, especially given the fact that the media is heavily skewed to left wing points of view.
We weren't talking about effectiveness dumbass
We were talking about respect and public opinion is a good barometer of whether a leader is respected or not.
You might not be respected yet be effective. There's a difference here.
But I would also argue that Trump being defeated by Biden shows that Trump wasn't that effective. Surely if Trump was that effective, he'd have been re-elected? Cleary this wasn't the case.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I doubt half could define either of them. Democrats are very confused by a few words.
As if you could.
There was a whole debate yesterday on whether socialism and government safety nets are the same thing. According to the actual definition of socialism, most things Republicans regard as socialist aren't actually socialist.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:14 pm to DangerousWafer
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Trump absolutely wasn't respected. I'm not sure where this idea that he was respected is coming from. Most people internationally thought he was a joke and America had gone crazy.
It appears you leftist loons wanted to leave no doubt America had gone crazy so you Marxists voted for Whispering Joe…..lol
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:16 pm to imjustafatkid
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You're either lying, or you're an idiot.
I think it is both!
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:16 pm to Bass Tiger
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It appears you leftist loons wanted to leave no doubt America had gone crazy so you Marxists voted for Whispering Joe…..lol
Imagine how bad Trump must have been then
I love the name calling. Marxist, lefty loon - delicious!
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:16 pm to DangerousWafer
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Fair enough. Here's YouGov (a British organization) polling the British public on Trump - he has a 64% disapproval rating.
lmao, are you a plant or simply naive?
Research and polling groups are nothing but an extension of globalists just like the media.
Simple search of donor organizations if you can't read through their obvious narrative.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:17 pm to DangerousWafer
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But I would also argue that Trump being defeated by Biden shows that Trump wasn't that effective. Surely if Trump was that effective, he'd have been re-elected? Cleary this wasn't the case.
That all depends on how you define effective.
Of course your dumbass believes that continuing the status quo of the US getting arse raped is a good thing and you have a mealy mouthed media that backs your opinion.
In the real world your cult leader Beijing Joe you suck off is getting his arse handed to him on multiple fronts, despite yours and the media’s repeated attempts to convince people “there’s nothing to see here”.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:18 pm to Scorpio58
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I think it is both!
So far the rebuttals have been weak and I'm not even sure what to call your comment. It's neither a rebuttal nor something insightful but I don't know what I expected to be honest.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:20 pm to BurntOrangeMan
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Research and polling groups are nothing but an extension of globalists just like the media.
So the only remotely objective way of determining things like 'respect' is now an extension of globalists?
You guys label everything as an extension of globalists. It's beyond boring at this point because it means nothing can be discussed at all.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:20 pm to DangerousWafer
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Civil Rights Act for one. Signed into law by LBJ and shepherded through by Senate leader Mike Mansfield who was a Democrat.
my GOD at your ignorance. The Civil Rights Act was the child of the Republican Party and would have been enacted years earlier if not for the opposition of the DEMOCRAT party.
And LBJ was a racist himself - his 'support' of the CRA was a tactic to pursue the Great Society - the worst thing to happen to blacks in America since slavery itself.
It was LBJ that ushered in the destruction of the black family unit - condemning 2 full generations of black children to dependence on govt welfare and allowing them to haunt the streets at night rather than being raised by loving fathers and given some self respect and devotion to hard work.
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Georgia Democrat Richard Russell offered the final arguments in opposition. Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, who had enlisted the Republican votes that made cloture a realistic option, spoke for the proponents with his customary eloquence. Noting that the day marked the 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's nomination to a second term, the Illinois Republican proclaimed, in the words of Victor Hugo, "Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come." He continued, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!"
Dirkson and legions of Republicans provided the muscle to pry the CRA out of the hands of the DEMOCRAT party - and all due praise is due to the few DEM leaders who allied themselves with the Republicans. Dirkson was the hero of the moment for the CRA.
You know nothing - how old are you???
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:24 pm to DangerousWafer
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According to the actual definition of socialism, most things Republicans regard as socialist aren't actually socialist.
This coming from the group that consistently proclaims “but that wasn’t real socialism” every time socialism fails.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:25 pm to DangerousWafer
Most people from around the world who didn’t like Trump didn’t like him because he put America first. It’s that simple. The rest of the world wants to use America as their piggy bank. Trump was trying to stop that.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:26 pm to ChineseBandit58
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And LBJ was a racist himself - his 'support' of the CRA was a tactic to pursue the Great Society - the worst thing to happen to blacks in America since slavery itself.
Again, something subjective. You've really got no evidence of him backing the CRA for this reason.
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It was LBJ that ushered in the destruction of the black family unit - condemning 2 full generations of black children to dependence on govt welfare and allowing them to haunt the streets at night rather than being raised by loving fathers and given some self respect and devotion to hard work.
Again, this is subjective.
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Dirkson and legions of Republicans provided the muscle to pry the CRA out of the hands of the DEMOCRAT party - and all due praise is due to the few DEM leaders who allied themselves with the Republicans. Dirkson was the hero of the moment for the CRA.
It was signed by Democrat LBJ and ushered through by Democrat Mike Mansfield.
Southern Democrats opposed it but they were nowhere near the majority of Democrats.
There's a reason why African-Americans vote for Democrats, not Republicans.
So you've effectively written two paragraphs that are completely subjective, ignored that Southern Democrats were hardly representative of most Democrats, and then ignored that in absolute numbers, it was the Democrats that passed the bill (as Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House).
Democrats had a supermajority in both the House and the Senate.
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