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Louisiana State Capitol Insider: Veto session highly likely
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:22 am
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:22 am
LaPolitics.com publisher Jeremy Alford says it’s highly likely the Legislature will hold its first-ever veto session on July 20th. Alford says lawmakers have until July 15th to vote to cancel the veto session, but many legislators want to override two controversial vetoes made by the governor.
“I’ve spoken to key lawmakers on both sides of Memorial Hall over the last couple of days and all of them use the same phrase which is …highly likely,” said Alford.
Governor Edwards has vetoed two bills that many lawmakers strongly support, a bill prohibiting transgender athletes from competing in girls’ sports and a measure that does away with a requirement to have a permit to carry a concealed handgun.
Alford says an intense lobbying effort is underway to make sure legislators do not cancel the veto session.
“Republican Senators are being buried underneath emails, phone calls, direct messages from across the political spectrum, from the leadership of the Republican Party to the rank-and-file voters,” said Alford.
If a veto session is called, it will take a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate to override the veto. Alford says based on his discussions with legislators, there is enough support to override the anti-transgender legislation.
“Overriding the transgender-related bill is something we can expect in the House and Senate, overriding the gun bill and everything else is going to make some more effort,” said Alford.
The governor has also issued eight line-item vetoes in the budget.
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“I’ve spoken to key lawmakers on both sides of Memorial Hall over the last couple of days and all of them use the same phrase which is …highly likely,” said Alford.
Governor Edwards has vetoed two bills that many lawmakers strongly support, a bill prohibiting transgender athletes from competing in girls’ sports and a measure that does away with a requirement to have a permit to carry a concealed handgun.
Alford says an intense lobbying effort is underway to make sure legislators do not cancel the veto session.
“Republican Senators are being buried underneath emails, phone calls, direct messages from across the political spectrum, from the leadership of the Republican Party to the rank-and-file voters,” said Alford.
If a veto session is called, it will take a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate to override the veto. Alford says based on his discussions with legislators, there is enough support to override the anti-transgender legislation.
“Overriding the transgender-related bill is something we can expect in the House and Senate, overriding the gun bill and everything else is going to make some more effort,” said Alford.
The governor has also issued eight line-item vetoes in the budget.
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:23 am to ragincajun03
Good. Force those cowards to grow a pair.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:24 am to ragincajun03
How is this the first ever veto session?
You mean in the entire history of louisiana a governor's veto has never been overridden? Or they've never had to have a special session to do it?
You mean in the entire history of louisiana a governor's veto has never been overridden? Or they've never had to have a special session to do it?
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:27 am to jlovel7
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How is this the first ever veto session?
In the past, there’s been threats of stuff, but previous Governors have used the counter threat of line item vetoing local pork projects of legislators pushing for veto sessions.
Looks like FINALLY, there’s enough legislators to not worry about that.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:27 am to jlovel7
Correct. Governors almost never veto legislation that was passed with a veto-proof majority, and the line-item vetos in the budget never go challenged as the budget traditionally contains more items than funds exist to pay for with the expectation that a handful of projects will get nixed by the governor.
In addition, you have to have the consent of the leadership of both houses, and with John Alario having been in command of at least one chamber for decades, there was no chance of a veto override against a dem governor.
In addition, you have to have the consent of the leadership of both houses, and with John Alario having been in command of at least one chamber for decades, there was no chance of a veto override against a dem governor.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:27 am to ragincajun03
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“Republican Senators are being buried underneath emails, phone calls, direct messages from across the political spectrum, from the leadership of the Republican Party to the rank-and-file voters,”
If this is the case this state is so fricking backwards it is funny.
First off I don't have any reason to believe that at least Alford is being told it is true....he is usually tuned in and his sources are usually pretty good.
However, if this is the case why did the "rank-and-file voters" vote in JBE....did they not know that a liberal Democrat would veto these bills even when the R majority legislature passed them? I don't understand people.
The real question is what Ds cross over in the House to vote for the veto override.....They will basically be killing any support that their district gets on any bill going forward for the next 2 years. You can bet they are getting that very call from JBE's inner circle as we speak. I wonder if they have spine to still override his veto. I have my doubts.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:28 am to ragincajun03
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Overriding the transgender-related bill is something we can expect in the House and Senate, overriding the gun bill and everything else is going to make some more effort,” said Alford.
This blows my mind. I'd think it's the other way around. The gun bill isn't going to cause any national blowback. The transgender bill whether you're for it or against it seems much more contested and controversial than simply passing constitutional carry.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:29 am to kingbob
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Governors almost never veto legislation that was passed with a veto-proof majority
This is correct and I'm not sure it has ever been done in LA.
That should tell you that JBE feels that he has some leverage over how that override vote will go. He is probably right.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:31 am to ragincajun03
Expect a convenient lockdown just prior to this.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:32 am to LSU316
The veto override session is literally the only check the legislative branch has on the governor’s power in Louisiana. If the GOP fails to override the governor’s vetoes, especially if they fail to even hold an override session, it will prove that the entire legislature exists purely for show and that the governor really is just an elected totalitarian dictator.
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:32 am to ragincajun03
Bella Edwards is closet tranny! He’s got that look....
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:33 am to jlovel7
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This blows my mind. I'd think it's the other way around. The gun bill isn't going to cause any national blowback. The transgender bill whether you're for it or against it seems much more contested and controversial than simply passing constitutional carry.
Yea I missed that part in the OP.....I thought it would be the other way as well.
However, both passed with a veto proof majority in both chambers. If CC doesn't get overridden it will be because JBE leveraged House Ds that voted for that bill to not vote to override the veto....I don't doubt that happens at all.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:35 am to kingbob
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If the GOP fails to override the governor’s vetoes, especially if they fail to even hold an override session, it will prove that the entire legislature exists purely for show and that the governor really is just an elected totalitarian dictator.
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the governor really is just an elected totalitarian dictator.
This is exactly what Edwin was going for when he bloodied the LA Constitution....he basically got it as right as he possible could from his perspective.
The threats that are currently happening to the Ds that voted for the bill to line item veto support for their districts in future bills is basically just that....totalitarian threats from a guy that wants to run everything like a dictator.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:37 am to LSU316
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However, if this is the case why did the "rank-and-file voters" vote in JBE....did they not know that a liberal Democrat would veto these bills even when the R majority legislature passed them? I don't understand people.
JBE, because of his voting record on social issues as a legislator and his campaign rhetoric, was viewed by many in Louisiana as a rural, social conservative. And to be honest, he didn’t turn off many of those rural conservative voters during his first term. His “cancel LSU football” was about his only real gaff. If he were having to run for re-election next year, I don’t think he’d have kept the mask mandate for as long as he did, and I think he’d have at least let the transgenders in girls sports bill slide on without a signature or veto.
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The real question is what Ds cross over in the House to vote for the veto override
Well both bills passed with 2/3 majority already, so you honestly just need those legislators to stay consistent.
There’s still a few rural, white Democrats like Francis Thompson who are going to be expected to support both bills. And at least regarding the transgenders in sports legislation, I think that’s something a good portion of black voters would want their legislators to vote for in order to protect their girls in school sports.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:42 am to ragincajun03
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There’s still a few rural, white Democrats like Francis Thompson who are going to be expected to support both bills.
I hope he can withstand the threats (and the actual acts that will happen without a doubt) of no funding for his home in Richland Parish and for town like Monroe.
We shall see.
There has to be 2 Ds vote for the override and I know that 2 Ds co-sponsored the bill......on the other side of the coin Rs will face this same pressure. I'm just saying there are some damn weak people in the Louisiana legislature...some will fold under the pressure.
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:50 am to ragincajun03
Do it cowards. Show JBE who runs this state.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:57 am to LSU316
I’m convinced, unfortunately, that Francis Thompson is untouchable in that district. He’s bounced between House and Senate for 46 years, and he’ll keep getting re-elected as long as he wants. He’s safe regardless what JBE threatens with funding.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:41 am to LSU316
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why did the "rank-and-file voters" vote in JBE.
Dominion did that, Soros has been installing his people for years prepping for 2020.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:46 am to ragincajun03
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If a veto session is called, it will take a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate to override the veto. Alford says based on his discussions with legislators, there is enough support to override the anti-transgender legislation.
“Overriding the transgender-related bill is something we can expect in the House and Senate, overriding the gun bill and everything else is going to make some more effort,” said Alford.
I thought it would be the opposite but I did call that it would take both to spur them into action.
Another prediction: It's one thing to know you are allowed to do something even though it's never been done before, it's a whole other thing to actually do it. Once the legislature gets a taste of overriding the Governor it may well change the way politics between the legislature and the Governor work in the state.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:52 am to LSUbest
I knew the pressure was getting to lawmakers as when I contacted my rep yesterday about the issue, I got a damn near instantaneous email from a staffer in under 5 minutes affirming that he supported a veto session.
I usually get a canned response in days, but I've never gotten a response from the assistant in the same day, much less about 3 minutes after I sent my email.
I usually get a canned response in days, but I've never gotten a response from the assistant in the same day, much less about 3 minutes after I sent my email.
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