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How do we know Desantis wont bow down to the establishment once elected?

Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:27 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:27 pm
I have seen twelve Presidents in my lifetime. I would categorize three as truly determined to reform the system

1. John F Kennedy
2. Ronald Regan
3. Donald Trump

Kennedy raised the ire of the intelligence agencies and the Fed. He was hostile to the CIA and wanted to take money creation away from the FED. He ended up with his brains splattered in Dallas.

Reagan was a true reformer in the beginning, insisting on fiscal responsibility. Then, he was shot several times and almost died. After that, e pretty much towed the establishment line, increased the debt, and was responsible for illegal amnesty that would shift our demographic future.


Trump could not be controlled, so they worked on removing him before he every even assumed office. He shined a light on how very corrupt this country is like no other. But in my opinion, he lacked the political connections and understanding to bring the establishment to heal, He was betrayed from within. Regardless, he is now a pursued man. They want him dead or in jail.


I categorize these three as great Americans with good intentions, but all of whom failed.


The only other modern day politicians who deserve being mentioned in the same breath as these three are, in my opinion, Dwight Eisenhower and Ron Paul. Eisenhower because he warned us about the dangers of the military industrial complex and Paul because he warned us about the dangers of the federal reserve and CIA.

So there you have it. Five people who deserve honor. Three failed. One was murdered. One pacified by attempted murder. One hounded by controlled media, betrayed by his own appointees and the state apparatus, and brought down by fraud and corruption.


Eisenhower served in another time. He saw the righting on the wall, but could not stop the inevitable. Paul, was always marginalized by media and the GOP to the point where only a fringe ever really listened to him.


All the other presidents, and most of the other congressmen simply played the game and either went along to get along or actively participated in destroying this country.


So now comes Desantis. I can almost buy the argument that he is better equipped to make an impact from knowledge standpoint and maybe even a demeanor standpoint. But I am reluctant to place him in the category of these five above from a courage standpoint.

Odds are he's just another politician. Likely a bright and adept guy, but is he a warrior? Because the next guy is going to have to be a warrior to save this country. And I only know of one running. And I hope that he learned enough in four years to go in and clean this mess up.


Thus, my original question. How do we know what Desantis would really do? How do we know who he really is? They all want to be president. Maybe he is just crafty enough to position himself as the heir apparent. Maybe he is just another fraud.

And you want us to throw the other guy away; the guy who as been battling them all and has the scars to prove it; the guy who exposed them all. Really?

I don't think so.


This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86097 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:28 pm to
I agree it's a gamble. But I don't think there is a better one going forward, and he's probably the most promising one in a long time from a conservative perspective.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38921 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:30 pm to
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How do we know Desantis wont bow down to the establishment once elected?
We don't. But he has not shown any signs of doing so and they've thrown some serious crap at him the last year or so. He's the best chance we have imo and if he fails well nobody else would have done any better
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
24941 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:31 pm to
Trump is nowhere near the other two.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Trump is nowhere near the other two.


Agreed!

Trump was several orders of magnitude better than the other two.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6447 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:33 pm to
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Reagan was a true reformer in the beginning, insisting on fiscal responsibility.


I'm a Reagan man, but the enormous debt this government has amassed started under Reagan.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7574 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:36 pm to
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Ron Paul.


People on this board voted for these goons over Ron Paul

John McCain
Rick Santorum
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee

Y'all get what you frickin deserve.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:38 pm to
Reagan also gave us amnesty and the first push for gun control.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31584 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Trump was several orders of magnitude better than the other tw
Big League
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3170 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:39 pm to
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We don't. But he has not shown any signs of doing so and they've thrown some serious crap at him the last year or so


forced vaccinations
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:40 pm to
He was in his 70s and shot down. They pacified him and he conformed.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24941 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:40 pm to
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Trump was several orders of magnitude better than the other two.


Trump was a complete letdown and never came close to measuring up to his loyal fanbase's fictional image of him. He did some good things but he also failed on many more and was a very poor leader considering his inability to get people to follow him.

Reagan ended his term with people that hated him in the beginning loving him by the end. He was a real leader.

frick Trump. I want better than his crybaby tantrums. He allowed the left to bait him constantly.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12829 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:41 pm to
If Trump doesn’t run then Desantis is the best we got. I am not sure anyone is close . It would have to be another outsider . I can’t think of many outsiders that would be a good fit . Maybe Tebow , Dana white or one of the duck dynasty guys.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:42 pm to
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I agree it's a gamble.


Trump is not a gamble. He was the most consequential President of my lifetime and I was born not too long after WWII. I loved RR but Trump is the man IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8170 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:44 pm to
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Odds are he's just another politician. Likely a bright and adept guy, but is he a warrior? Because the next guy is going to have to be a warrior to save this country. And I only know of one running. And I hope that he learned enough in four years to go in and clean this mess up.


I think Desantis is the real deal. However, I do not think PDJT is going to go without some payback.

Watch the video of him being interviewed in 1992 with Larry King. He said paraphrasing, "I would risk losing everything to find out who is loyal".

LINK

You Tube....I know, but interesting.

LINK

TD Link from xGeauxLSUx that brings the YouTube Link. You can see the quote here from the 55 minute interview of the prior.

I really do not think he is done. If the fraud we know happened is proven and a few other things fall in place, he would win even more than Reagan in 84.....which he may have been close in 2020, but for the fraud.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16989 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:46 pm to
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How do we know Desantis wont bow down to the establishment once elected?


He’s currently the Governor of Florida.

He resisted (and correctly so) all of the idiot Masked Covidians- to the point where other state idiot governors were basically making it a criminal offense to try to go to Florida. The dude fired that corrupt Brenda Sikes woman who was a B-List Stacy Abrams and who had been fricking up elections on purpose in Dade County to benefit democrats dating back to at least algore.

He won’t fold.

But he will be baselessly painted as some kind of bigot or tyrant whenever the Democrats figure out what defamation sticks. Maybe they’ll go after his wife or something. I’ve seen articles from them attacking her. They’ll figure something out.

Democrats made a campaign ad that said mitt Romney murdered some woman he never met; and that he didn’t file tax returns. Not because they thought it was true, but because they thought people would believe it.

And when all else fails. They’ll just fricking cheat. That’s why Trump needs to run again. It’s gonna take the entirety of the term of Joe and the Ho to just clean up thr 2020 mess. And we cannot have a fair election until 2020 is actually investigated.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:48 pm to

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107244 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:49 pm to
Whichever one brings us closer to the inevitable civil war is my pick. I didn’t buy all of these freedom seeds for nothing.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107244 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:50 pm to
JFK, the last Democrat with honor.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:52 pm to
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Trump was a complete letdown


Your problem is you’re viewing today’s political landscape through 1988 lenses.

Reagan would be mercilessly attacked by the media/democrats today like Trump was the last 5 years.

The media was biased in 1988 but they at least put on some facade of objectivity. That is totally gone now.

You’re a fool of you think some Republican (DeSantis?) is going to come in and not face the same onslaught that Trump faced. Why do you think the media is already attacking DeSantis?
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