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Can we list all trade targets?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:23 pm
Brogdon
Sabonis
Lavine
D. Mitchell
Grant
OG
Siakam
Bogdanovich
Beal
Hield
Gilgeous-Alexander
Who else?
Sabonis
Lavine
D. Mitchell
Grant
OG
Siakam
Bogdanovich
Beal
Hield
Gilgeous-Alexander
Who else?
5
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:24 pm to ghost2most
Westbrook, Paul, Lebron, Tre Young, Steph, KD
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:47 pm to ghost2most
If I could reduce the player the team needs down to a single stat it'd be points created by that player's drives. LINK
Going down this list of guys that create points with drives and would possibly be available/gettable:
If you make a Godfather Offer (4 assets or more, 2 of which are young players)
Fox
SGA
Mitchell
Lavine
If you make a strong offer (2 assets) and convince Lonzo to S&T there
McCollum
Barrett (this only works if you have a S&T with the Clippers or Bulls set up so the Knicks see getting Lonzo as receiving an asset they want but couldn't otherwise get).
If you make a strong offer (2 assets) and Bledsoe (still might need to add some 2nds with Bledsoe)
Brogdon
That obviously leaves out most wing and big targets like Anunoby and Sabonis, but I think getting someone good at driving the basketball is extremely important.
A few interesting names that stand out on that list that you wouldn't normally think of as targets:
Derozan
Wall
Shroder
Wall has 2 years left at $45ish, would he and his massive salary be more helpful than Bledsoe + Adams over that same time frame? If you strike out on your primary targets it might be something to consider that shouldn't cost picks to make happen.
Going down this list of guys that create points with drives and would possibly be available/gettable:
If you make a Godfather Offer (4 assets or more, 2 of which are young players)
Fox
SGA
Mitchell
Lavine
If you make a strong offer (2 assets) and convince Lonzo to S&T there
McCollum
Barrett (this only works if you have a S&T with the Clippers or Bulls set up so the Knicks see getting Lonzo as receiving an asset they want but couldn't otherwise get).
If you make a strong offer (2 assets) and Bledsoe (still might need to add some 2nds with Bledsoe)
Brogdon
That obviously leaves out most wing and big targets like Anunoby and Sabonis, but I think getting someone good at driving the basketball is extremely important.
A few interesting names that stand out on that list that you wouldn't normally think of as targets:
Derozan
Wall
Shroder
Wall has 2 years left at $45ish, would he and his massive salary be more helpful than Bledsoe + Adams over that same time frame? If you strike out on your primary targets it might be something to consider that shouldn't cost picks to make happen.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:56 pm to TigerinATL
Fox may be the most talented of that group but he’s a shitty shooter. We have enough bad shooters.
Who’s the best defender out of Shai, Mitchell and Lavine?
Who’s the best defender out of Shai, Mitchell and Lavine?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:28 pm to TigerinATL
I think Brogdon is not only the most attainable of the guys mentioned but also the best fit for what we need. Indiana has always been a franchise that likes to build from within first rather than go after huge free agents so our abundant draft capital would be very appealing to them. Brogdon would immediately give you a proven starting veteran PG who would set the offense up and who is an outstanding 3 point shooter as well as a good defender. He’s also from all accounts a good guy off the court who could be that veteran leader that we missed when Jrue was traded. As far as price I think 2 1st, 2 2nd and Bledsoe would be a very competitive offer while keeping your young talent in place. If we bring Hart back I like where are with our wing players between Ingram, Hart and Naji and you’d have Brogdon, Kira, NAW and Didi in place at guard leaving you room to add shooters at any position. While I still think we need anew coach this team is still so close to being a real threat Griiff just has the use the bullets in his gun wisely.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:36 pm to LSUJD_04
Markenann
But I like some sort of trade for Brogdan
But I like some sort of trade for Brogdan
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:38 pm to Pelefraan 1
I like what Markenann can be but the question is will you get that player or the often injured guy that has dissapeared at times on the court. If he came at a good deal sure he’d be a great small ball 5 that spaces the floor. We played all year without a true starting PG, that can’t happen again.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:49 pm to TigerinATL
So the team wants another ball dominant player? I think the team needs players who can create for themselves, but I don’t think they need someone who needs/expects to have the ball the majority of the time.
I would also prefer someone who is a front court wing player (3 and D).
I would also prefer someone who is a front court wing player (3 and D).
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:05 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
trade targets
according to this board a year ago it was:
Myles Turner
Myles Turner
and Myles Turner
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:18 pm to GeauxTigersGo
Still not a horrid target tbh. Top 5 rim protector in the league and can shoot a bit and Makes roughly the same money amount of Adams makes on his new deal. Wouldn’t hate it as it would be appealing to have 2 of Zion, Hayes, and Turner on the court at all times. Billy and Wenyen can play the foul trouble/or injury minutes.
I’d also like to submit Jonathan Isaac as a potential trade target. His name has been bouncing around in my head for weeks. Also mentioned him in another thread. And I think I saw Shamit Dua mention him a few days ago on Twitter.
Imagine a lineup of
NAW/Lonzo - if we keep him
Ingram
Isaac/Zion
Zion/Isaac- interchangeable depending on matchup who plays 3 or 4
Hayes
That would be a legit lineup with all types of athleticism and size. Hayes and Isaac are two players that can potentially guard 1-5. Ingram also gets to shift down to 2, where his size could unlock his contested jumpers even more. You can also continue to hide Zion a bit on defense so he has more energy to carry the load offensively and maybe get back to playing the passing lanes on defense like he did while at Duke. Isaac also fits perfectly in either the Bledsoe or Adams salary slot.
Bledsoe or Adams, Pick 10, and several seconds or a far out first could possibly get it done if Orlando finds the shorter contracts of Bled or Adams to be appealing in addition to a draft prospect on a rookie scale deal.
I’d also like to submit Jonathan Isaac as a potential trade target. His name has been bouncing around in my head for weeks. Also mentioned him in another thread. And I think I saw Shamit Dua mention him a few days ago on Twitter.
Imagine a lineup of
NAW/Lonzo - if we keep him
Ingram
Isaac/Zion
Zion/Isaac- interchangeable depending on matchup who plays 3 or 4
Hayes
That would be a legit lineup with all types of athleticism and size. Hayes and Isaac are two players that can potentially guard 1-5. Ingram also gets to shift down to 2, where his size could unlock his contested jumpers even more. You can also continue to hide Zion a bit on defense so he has more energy to carry the load offensively and maybe get back to playing the passing lanes on defense like he did while at Duke. Isaac also fits perfectly in either the Bledsoe or Adams salary slot.
Bledsoe or Adams, Pick 10, and several seconds or a far out first could possibly get it done if Orlando finds the shorter contracts of Bled or Adams to be appealing in addition to a draft prospect on a rookie scale deal.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:45 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Only problem is that the Magic view Isaac as almost untouchable. We'd have to severely overpay for him, even coming off major injury. I really want OG on this team, but Toronto would demand a lot.
Would you rather one big trade for a high level player or multiple trades for a few quality rotation players that can shoot and/or defend?
Would you rather one big trade for a high level player or multiple trades for a few quality rotation players that can shoot and/or defend?
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:06 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:
So the team wants another ball dominant player? I think the team needs players who can create for themselves
And how do you create for yourself? There aren’t that many Steph’s and Dame’s that pull up from anywhere to create their own jump shot. Most shot creation comes from dribble penetration.
You’re not looking for someone to take the ball out of Zion’s hands, you’re looking for someone that’s a big enough threat on offense that he can create for Zion. Right now I don’t think they’re any better than when Jrue was who they leaned on in crunch time, which isn’t good.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:36 am to ghost2most
Brogdon - not being traded
Sabonis - not being traded
Lavine - not being traded
D. Mitchell - lol
Grant - plays the same position as two of the Pels best players
OG - finally.
Siakam - plays the same position as two of the Pels best players
Bogdanovich - neither of them are being traded
Beal - not being traded
Hield - option 2
Gilgeous-Alexander - not a chance in hell of being traded.
Sabonis - not being traded
Lavine - not being traded
D. Mitchell - lol
Grant - plays the same position as two of the Pels best players
OG - finally.
Siakam - plays the same position as two of the Pels best players
Bogdanovich - neither of them are being traded
Beal - not being traded
Hield - option 2
Gilgeous-Alexander - not a chance in hell of being traded.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:45 am to ghost2most
quote:
Gilgeous-Alexander
Want. But I don’t see that happening.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:14 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:
I’d also like to submit Jonathan Isaac as a potential trade target. His name has been bouncing around in my head for weeks. Also mentioned him in another thread. And I think I saw Shamit Dua mention him a few days ago on Twitter.
Shamit has been mentioning his name for two years now, but Isaac is just about as untouchable as SGA.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:14 am to ghost2most
Realistic targets :
Atlanta : John Collins, Cam Reddish
Boston : Romeo Langford, Robert Williams
Brooklyn : Spencer Dwindiddle, Landry Shamet, Timothe Luwawu Cabarrot
Charlotte : Bismack Biyombo, PJ Washington, Miles Bridges
Chicago : Coby White, Lauri Markannen, Al-Farouq Aminu
Cleveland : Kevin Love, Cedi Osman
Dallas : Dwight Powell, Josh Richardson
Denver : Bol Bol, JaMychal Green, Will Barton, AUstin Rivers
Detroit : Jerami Grant, Mason Plumlee, Sekou Doumbouya
Golden State : Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre Jr, James Wiseman
Houston : John Wall, Avery Bradley, David Nwaba
Indiana : Malcolm Brogdon (?), Jeremy Lamb, Doug McDermott
LA Lakers : Wessley Matthews, Markieff Morris, Talen Horton-Tucker
LA Clippers : Patrick Beverley, Luke Kennard, Nicolas Batum
Atlanta : John Collins, Cam Reddish
Boston : Romeo Langford, Robert Williams
Brooklyn : Spencer Dwindiddle, Landry Shamet, Timothe Luwawu Cabarrot
Charlotte : Bismack Biyombo, PJ Washington, Miles Bridges
Chicago : Coby White, Lauri Markannen, Al-Farouq Aminu
Cleveland : Kevin Love, Cedi Osman
Dallas : Dwight Powell, Josh Richardson
Denver : Bol Bol, JaMychal Green, Will Barton, AUstin Rivers
Detroit : Jerami Grant, Mason Plumlee, Sekou Doumbouya
Golden State : Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre Jr, James Wiseman
Houston : John Wall, Avery Bradley, David Nwaba
Indiana : Malcolm Brogdon (?), Jeremy Lamb, Doug McDermott
LA Lakers : Wessley Matthews, Markieff Morris, Talen Horton-Tucker
LA Clippers : Patrick Beverley, Luke Kennard, Nicolas Batum
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:21 am to nicj4
quote:
Atlanta : John Collins, Cam Reddish
Boston : Romeo Langford, Robert Williams
Brooklyn : Spencer Dwindiddle, Landry Shamet, Timothe Luwawu Cabarrot
Charlotte : Bismack Biyombo, PJ Washington, Miles Bridges
Chicago : Coby White, Lauri Markannen, Al-Farouq Aminu
Cleveland : Kevin Love, Cedi Osman
Dallas : Dwight Powell, Josh Richardson
Denver : Bol Bol, JaMychal Green, Will Barton, AUstin Rivers
Detroit : Jerami Grant, Mason Plumlee, Sekou Doumbouya
Golden State : Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre Jr, James Wiseman
Houston : John Wall, Avery Bradley, David Nwaba
Indiana : Malcolm Brogdon (?), Jeremy Lamb, Doug McDermott
LA Lakers : Wessley Matthews, Markieff Morris, Talen Horton-Tucker
LA Clippers : Patrick Beverley, Luke Kennard, Nicolas Batum
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:47 am to Fun Bunch
The only player on that list I want is Brogdon.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:58 am to ghost2most
quote:The list doesn't have many really good players, but there's more than a few dudes on that list that could help our team if they had a spot in our rotation IMO.
The only player on that list I want is Brogdon
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:04 am to ghost2most
I hate this time of year because magical thinking starts going into overdrive.
Most of the guys in the OP aren't available, period.
Hield, Siakam, maybe Beal. That's about it.
And Beal is really the only difference maker and with the improvement of that team just enough, and ownership's hesitation/Beal enjoying the stability of raising his family in one city, I'm not sure he will actually be available anymore.
You also are not getting SGA, Fox, Mitchell, or Lavine unless BI is involved, and even then, almost assuredly still not happening because of those franchise's loyalty/position.
nicj4 is the only one I see offering realistic targets right now.
Maybe that changes if a team has a catastrophic playoff exit, but as of today most of the names thrown around in here are simply not available. Let alone for what some seem to think they can be had for.
Most of the guys in the OP aren't available, period.
Hield, Siakam, maybe Beal. That's about it.
And Beal is really the only difference maker and with the improvement of that team just enough, and ownership's hesitation/Beal enjoying the stability of raising his family in one city, I'm not sure he will actually be available anymore.
You also are not getting SGA, Fox, Mitchell, or Lavine unless BI is involved, and even then, almost assuredly still not happening because of those franchise's loyalty/position.
nicj4 is the only one I see offering realistic targets right now.
Maybe that changes if a team has a catastrophic playoff exit, but as of today most of the names thrown around in here are simply not available. Let alone for what some seem to think they can be had for.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 10:04 am
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