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re: Most overachieving college football programs

Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:23 pm to
This makes zero sense..... both 2001 Neb and 2003 OU should not have been in the NC game....... now if you are bitching about the rematch with LSU and Bama?? I agree that Bama should not have been in that position but hey you gotta be ready to play who is in front of you and Miles did a HORRIBLE job getting his team ready for that game. And that Bama team was real good........
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Oklahoma won their division that year and neither of those two went in to face the only team that beat them in a rematch



That still doesn't change the fact that neither one of them won their conference. And who cares if there was a rematch? Rematches happen in conference championship games all the time. Why shouldn't they be allowed to happen in national championships if those are the two best teams in the country?
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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Tenn was basically Michigan only for the fact they had orange jerseys and a better QB.


Peyton Manning was nowhere close to 100% and shouldn't have been playing in that game to begin with. He was listed as questionable for the Orange Bowl with a knee injury from the day after the SEC Championship Game to about New Years' Eve.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:39 pm to
Ok fine. But Neb would have still crushed that Michigan team........
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:49 pm to
What about UCONN- I just read on CBS Sports that UCONN not Bama won the 2020 National Championship

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Randy Edsall, UConn
Accomplishments: New York Times' "national champion" (2020)



So I had to go find the article-
The College Football Champion not in the title game

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It is too late for Ohio State and Alabama to heed such wisdom.

But not too late for the rest of college sports.

A good place to start would be on the Connecticut campus, home to vaunted men’s and women’s basketball teams. Both have already been battered by the virus. Yet both carry on, eyes fixed on title dreams and fiscal windfalls, ears closed to the message sent by college football’s real national champion.

Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:51 pm to
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But Neb would have still crushed that Michigan team........


I think Nebraska wins but I don't think Michigan gets crushed. That Michigan defense was scary good and they played a better overall schedule than Nebraska did that year. We look back and stare impressively at that Orange Bowl win over Tennessee but the SEC was hardly the league that it is today. Tennessee's most impressive win that year was against #15 Georgia, they lost to then top-ranked Florida by two touchdowns and won by a single point against Auburn in the SEC Championship Game - looking like total arse while doing so. The week before the SEC title game they had even struggled to a 17-10 win over their arch-rival Vanderbilt ( ).

So while that win over Tennessee looks impressive on paper, the Vols were nowhere near as solid as their 11-1 record indicated. They were a good football team to be sure, but they were by no means great and nowhere near close to being a complete team.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:55 pm to
Ok fine.... and I get that..... but Michigan struggled to score against a very crappy Wash St. team in the Rose bowl....... BTW the big ten want that good that year as well...... look it up.......
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:04 pm to
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It is too late for Ohio State and Alabama to heed such wisdom.

But not too late for the rest of college sports.

What a bitch

I highly doubt UConn would've canned their football season had their football program not been one of the worst and least profitable programs in the country. Plus there were not scores of cases due to football like he suggested. People like him were certain there would be massive spikes in places like Tuscaloosa and Columbus because people were packing the bars to watch the game. And nothing of the sort occurred.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:20 pm to
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but Michigan struggled to score against a very crappy Wash St. team in the Rose bowl


I mean...Washington State was 10-1 heading into that game and champions of the Pac-10 so I wouldn't necessarily call them "crappy." They were also quarterbacked by Ryan Leaf, the #2 pick in the draft, and a finalist for the Heisman Trophy. And five teams in the Big 12 finished ranked in the Top 25 compared to four teams in the Big Ten (with all four teams from the Big Ten finishing ranked in the Top 20 compared to just two from the Big 12). So not that much difference.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:36 pm to
You really think Washington St. would have won the big ten??????
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:44 pm to
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You really think Washington St. would have won the big ten??????



No, but that doesn't make them crappy. They were a good football team nonetheless.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204357 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:50 pm to
Ok would Wash St. beat that Nebraska team??????
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:54 pm to
He’s using those two as examples of why bama should have been in. I’m simply pointing out the differences.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:01 pm to
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Ok would Wash St. beat that Nebraska team??????



No, but that doesn't mean they were a crappy football team. That's all I'm arguing. Anytime a P5 team makes it through their conference with 10 wins or better they are most likely, at worst, decent.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 2:01 pm
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