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re: Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during COVID (updated: back)

Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:42 pm to
Because the viral loaded needed for infection from the flu is higher, the window for infection is lower, the immune system is better equipped to fight the flu. The list goes on and on, but my guess is that nothing I say will change your mind. My M.D. is probably worthless to you.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16465 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:55 pm to
How would the flu levels "dropping to minuscule levels" affect the flu virus going forward. Could the levels ever get low enough to the point that it would be essentially non-existent?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24073 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

My M.D. is probably worthless to you.


For treating patients, no, but for conducting and reporting actual science...probably. An MD doesn’t automatically make one a good scientist.



Surely, you’ve read about viral interference by now, and looked at worldwide data trends for SARS 2.0, flu, other HCoVs, rhinovirus, etc. to see how they all virtually disappeared when SARS rates were high but rebounded when SARS cooled down?

Japan masks every year for flu, and I believe pushed hard for it in 2019. Why did it only work this past year?


Or how about in Brazil? Low CoviD mitigation implementation there and yet flu still disappeared:


fricking wild!

But it must be those masks!
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11043 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:17 pm to
Just want to insure I’m taking what you are saying correctly, as I am but a simple caveman. Are you saying the masks are why we are seeing virtually no flu?
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 3:01 pm to
Has SARS-Cov2 been isolated in a lab yet?

At what cT cycle/value are you willing to publish as scientific findings in a peer-reviewed journal?

ALL amplicon panels I have read about are based of of synthetic SARS-Cov2 genome. Whats your thought on that?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46310 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Because the viral loaded needed for infection from the flu is higher, the window for infection is lower, the immune system is better equipped to fight the flu. The list goes on and on, but my guess is that nothing I say will change your mind. My M.D. is probably worthless to you.




I don’t think your $200k degree is worthless but I can assure you there are virologists, researchers and other MDs that would not necessarily agree with you.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:56 pm to
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My M.D. is probably worthless to you.

No you're just an enabler of an overhyped pandemic.

1) The only difference between the two airborne, respiratory infections is the length of time that spread is possible. Influenza spreads at a rate of 1 to 1.3 per infected person as opposed to 2 to 2.5 with COVID.

2) Both are spread in the exact same way, both live on common surfaces for the same amount of time, both have the same asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic rates of 50%, and your viral load claim is meaningless based on the stat in point #1. Because once you've reached viral load, you begin to spread it at a rate of 1 to 1.3.

3) Yet there was no spread at the rates of 1 to 1.3. The spread rate was essentially zero? Of course, no one believes that was the case. So you have to conclude that the COVID tests were designed to catch ALL respiratory illness.

That's why there were so many false results. Those documented to have caught COVID twice. They tested positive for COVID, but actually had influenza. So when they did finally catch COVID, they had no natural immunity because they only previously had influenza.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19683 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Because the viral loaded needed for infection from the flu is higher, the window for infection is lower, the immune system is better equipped to fight the flu. The list goes on and on, but my guess is that nothing I say will change your mind. My M.D. is probably worthless to you.


Flu has made the rounds for decades in may variations. Residual immunities are a factor in resistance.

For example, the "Spanish" flu killed a lot more younger people. The older people had had a somewhat similar flu in the 1800's and had some immunity as a result.

While our mediots and experts were in a frenzy over so many people having asymptomatic cases, a German effort sought to find out why they were asymptomatic. They found that people who had had one of the coronaviruses from the "common cold" had some immunity. Kind of a cow pox/small pox kind of thing.

There was a curious case, again in Germany, where a boy had both covid and the flu. Contact tracing found that he gave covid to one person and flu to more than two dozen. That's a very small if curious sample.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68891 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:19 am to
quote:

the immune system is better equipped to fight the flu.


Yet 10s of thousands die annually of all ages.

I've been on my death bed with the flu. Barely anything from Corona.

Seems my immune system was better equiped to handle Corona virus.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11426 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:07 am to
Seems like it is worthless to your patients if you have any.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:21 pm to
M. D. my arse

You’re a friggin fool arse con like all democrats

frick off
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