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re: Democratic senators propose lowering Medicare age from 65 to 50
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:35 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:35 am to Ace Midnight
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Anyone who supports it in this environment simply cannot be trusted.
Ignore every other first world country using some form of it. Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:38 am to dawgfan24348
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Ignore every other first world country using some form of it.
Every other "first world" country who got beat during WWII? Didn't land on the Moon? Didn't win the Cold War through sheer force of will?
Single payer will governmental level control (and DMV level service) to health care - and is being pushed by the same folks (you and your ilk) who don't trust the police (the government's first line of enforcement).
:letthatsinkin:
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:42 am to dawgfan24348
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first world country using some form of it. Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
So, you would prefer the government tell you who and when to get treated? and what you can get treated for? The same government that gives some people preferential treatment, because they have darker skin? That would go well.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:50 am to dawgfan24348
No system (insurance or government sponsored) will be able to support Americans shitty lifestyle choices that are only getting worse...
If you really want to fix the problem you should be lobbying for lifestyle changes and helping people fix their diets and not worrying about if an insurance company or government program will pay for your diabetes meds.
You’re very naive to think government healthcare won’t be rationed or limited in the US.
Dems will 100% weaponize the healthcare system the same way they’ve weaponized every branch of government they can get their hands on.
If you really want to fix the problem you should be lobbying for lifestyle changes and helping people fix their diets and not worrying about if an insurance company or government program will pay for your diabetes meds.
You’re very naive to think government healthcare won’t be rationed or limited in the US.
Dems will 100% weaponize the healthcare system the same way they’ve weaponized every branch of government they can get their hands on.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:54 am to dawgfan24348
quote:Ignore every other measure of economic productivity. You should emigrate to those utopias. Why don’t others flock there?
Ignore every other first world country using some form of it.
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Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
Now do medicare and medicaid. 
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:58 am to dawgfan24348
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Ignore every other first world country using some form of it. Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
Can you please give me an example of a country that had our type of system, then switched to M4A, and ended up saving money?
Because all those countries you cite never really had a private system. They enacted their systems decades and decades ago, before healthcare was a large sector of economy.
I’m not aware of a single nation in the world that has successfully reduced health spending
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:05 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
Yes the government is so much better
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:09 pm to dawgfan24348
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Ignore every other first world country using some form of it. Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
We have "some form" of it, it's called Medicare and medicaid. The problem is almost everyone involved in the decision making has no skin in the game.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:34 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
I'm thinking it would be more like a 3 way DP with the insurance company - the citizen - and the government.
Insurance owns congress, that's the problem.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:49 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:It's not ignored at all. Smart people see the NHS courts ruling to terminate health care for citizens and the months long wait list for appointments and surgeries and rightfully think to hell with that.
Ignore every other first world country using some form of it.
If you have a problem with your insurance restricting coverage to certain providers then you'll really get a kick out of the government denying treatment outright.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 4:51 pm to dawgfan24348
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Ignore every other first world country using some form of it.
How many of the wealthy from those other countries fly to the US and fork over cash when they need state of the art procedures?
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