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Question About Whiplash Ending
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:07 pm
Was Fletcher trying to provoke Andrew to tap into greatness or was it a miscalculation by Fletcher in his plan to humiliate and ruin Andrew?
Seems to me like Fletcher’s m.o. in life was to inspire greatness no matter the cost. I kind of believe he knew all along Andrew had the ability, and just wanted to bring the entire weight of the world crashing down on Andrew so as to push him beyond the limit we’d seen so far. Even if Fletcher hated Andrew for helping to get him removed from Schaffer, his desire to discover greatness was more powerful than revenge.
Seems to me like Fletcher’s m.o. in life was to inspire greatness no matter the cost. I kind of believe he knew all along Andrew had the ability, and just wanted to bring the entire weight of the world crashing down on Andrew so as to push him beyond the limit we’d seen so far. Even if Fletcher hated Andrew for helping to get him removed from Schaffer, his desire to discover greatness was more powerful than revenge.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:09 pm to NotoriousFSU
More importantly: how did Andrew take it when Fletcher told him “not quite my tempo” after that blazing drum solo?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:14 pm to NotoriousFSU
It was to utterly humiliate him for causing him to loose his job.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:15 pm to NotoriousFSU
This is actually a really good question.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:20 pm to NotoriousFSU
I think his intent at the end was strictly to humiliate Andrew. I don’t think it was a machination to bring out the greatness in him.
But once Andrew started his “frick you” solo, Fletcher realized that the greatness was coming out and got on board.
That was my take at least.
But once Andrew started his “frick you” solo, Fletcher realized that the greatness was coming out and got on board.
That was my take at least.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:36 pm to NotoriousFSU
I think he was just a bit crazy when it came to greatness. Joe Jackson style basically. Maybe not that brutal
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:13 pm to NotoriousFSU
He meant to humiliate him, but recognized greatness and respected the greatness that fuels his passion and let all else go in the moment.
His passion>>his ego
His passion>>his ego
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:55 pm to NotoriousFSU
quote:
Seems to me like Fletcher’s m.o. in life was to inspire greatness no matter the cost.
I don't agree with this. I believe Fletcher's m.o. was to always be the smartest/most talented person in the room. Whatever by-product of that occurred was merely happenstance.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to NotoriousFSU
How did it not win Best Picture......
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:16 pm to NotoriousFSU
Tinfoil Hi-hat;
Andrew died in the crash. His validation was just last neurons firing to the great beyond.
Andrew died in the crash. His validation was just last neurons firing to the great beyond.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:59 am to NotoriousFSU
Just finished another rewatch.
Fletcher was trying to mute Andrew. Andrew went off program to humiliate Fletcher and was so damn good, basically supplanting Fletcher’s control, that Fletcher hated it but still loved it.
Fletcher was trying to mute Andrew. Andrew went off program to humiliate Fletcher and was so damn good, basically supplanting Fletcher’s control, that Fletcher hated it but still loved it.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:21 pm to NotoriousFSU
I watched it the other day and read online the director’s vision for what happened after the movie:
-men continue to despise each other
-Andrew dies of drug overdose in his 30’s
-men continue to despise each other
-Andrew dies of drug overdose in his 30’s
quote:
LINKWhere do you think these two go after this movie ends? They had a moment at the end of the film, but I feel these two will always hate each other.
“ I think so. I think it’s definitely a fleeting thing. I think there’s a certain amount of damage that will always have been done. Fletcher will always think he won and Andrew will be a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. I have a very dark view of where it goes”
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 3:26 pm
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