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Question About Whiplash Ending

Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:07 pm
Was Fletcher trying to provoke Andrew to tap into greatness or was it a miscalculation by Fletcher in his plan to humiliate and ruin Andrew?

Seems to me like Fletcher’s m.o. in life was to inspire greatness no matter the cost. I kind of believe he knew all along Andrew had the ability, and just wanted to bring the entire weight of the world crashing down on Andrew so as to push him beyond the limit we’d seen so far. Even if Fletcher hated Andrew for helping to get him removed from Schaffer, his desire to discover greatness was more powerful than revenge.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:09 pm to
More importantly: how did Andrew take it when Fletcher told him “not quite my tempo” after that blazing drum solo?
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2778 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:14 pm to
It was to utterly humiliate him for causing him to loose his job.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5994 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:15 pm to
This is actually a really good question.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:20 pm to
I think his intent at the end was strictly to humiliate Andrew. I don’t think it was a machination to bring out the greatness in him.

But once Andrew started his “frick you” solo, Fletcher realized that the greatness was coming out and got on board.

That was my take at least.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6109 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:36 pm to
I think he was just a bit crazy when it came to greatness. Joe Jackson style basically. Maybe not that brutal
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:13 pm to
He meant to humiliate him, but recognized greatness and respected the greatness that fuels his passion and let all else go in the moment.

His passion>>his ego
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11863 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Seems to me like Fletcher’s m.o. in life was to inspire greatness no matter the cost.


I don't agree with this. I believe Fletcher's m.o. was to always be the smartest/most talented person in the room. Whatever by-product of that occurred was merely happenstance.

Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
How did it not win Best Picture......
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:16 pm to
Tinfoil Hi-hat;

Andrew died in the crash. His validation was just last neurons firing to the great beyond.

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120403 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:38 pm to
Russian or dragon?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28572 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:59 am to
Just finished another rewatch.

Fletcher was trying to mute Andrew. Andrew went off program to humiliate Fletcher and was so damn good, basically supplanting Fletcher’s control, that Fletcher hated it but still loved it.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26297 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:21 pm to
I watched it the other day and read online the director’s vision for what happened after the movie:

-men continue to despise each other
-Andrew dies of drug overdose in his 30’s

quote:

LINKWhere do you think these two go after this movie ends? They had a moment at the end of the film, but I feel these two will always hate each other.

“ I think so. I think it’s definitely a fleeting thing. I think there’s a certain amount of damage that will always have been done. Fletcher will always think he won and Andrew will be a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. I have a very dark view of where it goes”
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 3:26 pm
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