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re: Kim Mulkey is coming home! Maybe

Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by timlan2057
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:13 pm to
I don’t get all this “can she recruit at 58?”

She can, but even if she couldn’t, Kim Mulkey recruits herself.

Without her on the road 24/365, how many blue chip kids from around Louisiana and around the country would want to come to LSU to play for Kim Mulkey?

I think a helluva lot.

In fact, I think the quandary with LSU WBB under
Mulkey would not be who to recruit, but which kids to turn away who want to commit.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Kim is a household name.


No. Just no
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:19 pm to
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Kim is a household name.


No. Just no

In the context of women’s basketball, she absolutely is
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:21 pm to
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In the context of women’s basketball, she absolutely is


The original post did not specify any such context
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:21 pm to
I believe Mulkey is the only women's coach in history besides Geno and Pat with 3+ NCAA Tournament titles.

Whether she is a household name in sports is irrelevant. She is a household name when it comes to households that produce women's basketball players, and that's all that matters.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:23 pm to
I was referring to Kim being a household name in WBB, and honestly is in women’s sports overall given her resume.

All I was saying was it wouldn’t take Kim long to turn the roster over talent wise if she came in due to her success. Kids want to play for her.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by evangelfan
LA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:24 pm to
Yes, but there is an article out that suggests she may take Wade’s job and coach the men’s team
Posted by KingofthePoint
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:24 pm to
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The original post did not specify any such context


It was obviously implied
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Isn't she the mom on some LSU player?


Mondo and Antoine.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:44 pm to
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Kim is a household name.


No. Just no

In the context of women’s basketball, she absolutely is





Household name might be a bit much but she's the biggest name in women's basketball at any level.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:52 pm to
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she's the biggest name in women's basketball at any level.



big fish small pond
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:53 pm to
Does anybody see the irony that this thread has more activity than any women's basketball game thread in the last 15 years?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:58 pm to
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Does anybody see the irony that this thread has more activity than any women's basketball game thread in the last 15 years?


yep, definitely not football season
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:03 pm to
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That’s not realistic though. The other non-football and MBB sports don’t have coaches commanding multi-million dollar salaries.

The wbb team operates like it’s a revenue producing sport. It’s not, and not even close. It’s absurd to have ~$5 million in operating expenses to support a team of 15 athletes that doesn’t make money.

And again, even if mulkey were to go to lsu and make them successful:

1. The operating expenses are going to significantly increase.
2. LSU doesn’t need the national brand exposure from WBB the way places like UConn and Baylor do. Thy get it from football.



On the contrary, it IS realistic. Everyone needs to understand LSU doesn't have all these 14 sports because they're trying to make money. If they did, it wouldn't make sense to even HAVE the other sports. But remember, the NCAA REQUIRES a school to carry 14 sports (7 men, 7 women) to be eligible for Division I. So, when you have that kind of situation you'd like to have enough revenue coming in to the athletic department, to be able to sustain all of your programs. Most of them are not going to make money but, there are MANY OTHER benefits that go along with having successful programs, other than making money. Now, if this were PROFESSIONAL sports I would agree with the previous position. But it isn't. So, the goal is to be the best you can in every sport, and not trying minimize the amount of money you spend on sports that don't make money. In the case of LSU, the overall athletic program has MORE THAN ENOUGH revenue coming in because of football.

So, it is NOT absurd to put money into a sport that doesn't make money because that is not your goal in the first place. YOU ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE AND PROFIT. So now make sure EVERY SPORT is good, period. Paying someone like Mulkey a salary commensurate with the market rate is still a drop in the bucket to the entire LSU athletic department budget. So, it doesn't even make sense to be stingy. Pay to get good coaches period and hopefully that particular program will break even or even eventually make a small profit..................which has been shown to be possible with a women's basketball program.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:14 pm to
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Does she have the energy to coach basketball at 58? Lol. Warren Buffet is 90 and runs an 870 billion dollar company. I think a 58 yr old can handle a basketball team.

I have never felt older than just now.




Man, I'm right there with you!

I was like, "WTH"? Fifty-eight is not old to coach basketball

...........and contrary to what's being said, LSU women's basketball is not a total rebuild. All the infrastructure is there to have a QUICK turnaround, as a matter of fact. The only thing missing IS top notch players. In this sport that can be rectified in two recruiting classes. She'd have them in the NCAA her first year and probably sweet sixteen by the second year. Book it.
Posted by pbro62
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:17 pm to
You are a dipwad
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:24 pm to
I am a "dipwad" for not wanting to allocate in excess of $10MM (closer to $15MM for the 5-year deal that such a contract would require) into a subsidized sports program.

I'm ok with fiscal responsibility.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted by geauxgrrl
Lafayette area
Member since Mar 2004
1088 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:26 pm to
Kim's recruited in Louisiana for Baylor than Nikki recruited Louisiana for the flagship university of the state! Recruiting will not be a problem.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:37 pm to
I don't even care about women's basketball but this would fire me the frick up!
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 3:02 pm to
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On the contrary, it IS realistic.


No, it isn’t. If the objective was to simply get the best coaches in every sport then they should pay every non-revenue sport’s head coach $2 million per year. Are you in favor of that?

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Everyone needs to understand LSU doesn't have all these 14 sports because they're trying to make money. If they did, it wouldn't make sense to even HAVE the other sports. But remember, the NCAA REQUIRES a school to carry 14 sports (7 men, 7 women) to be eligible for Division I.


No one advocating for fiscal responsibility is suggesting to get rid of non-revenue producing sports.

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So, when you have that kind of situation you'd like to have enough revenue coming in to the athletic department, to be able to sustain all of your programs.


Yes, exactly. And keep up with necessary facility upgrades. And pay your department staff. So why throw away more money than is necessary on a sport that doesn’t produce a return on investment?

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So, the goal is to be the best you can in every sport, and not trying minimize the amount of money you spend on sports that don't make money.


It’s not. The goal is to decide the amount of resources that will be dedicated to each sport and to be as good as you can be in each given the resource allocation.

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In the case of LSU, the overall athletic program has MORE THAN ENOUGH revenue coming in because of football.


Not relevant. Just because you have money to spend doesn’t justify spending it just because.

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So, it is NOT absurd to put money into a sport that doesn't make money because that is not your goal in the first place.


Just because the goal of the sport isn’t to make money doesn’t mean it’s any less absurd to pour money into the sport. You randomly deciding to capitalize words doesn’t change that.

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YOU ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE AND PROFIT. So now make sure EVERY SPORT is good, period.


Show me your posts advocating for building a brand new, state of the art natatorium and shelling out millions of dollars to hire the best swim and dive staff available.

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Paying someone like Mulkey a salary commensurate with the market rate is still a drop in the bucket to the entire LSU athletic department budget.


That explains why the athletic department eliminated several staff positions in the last year, asked coaches to take a salary reduction, continue to woefully underpay several staff positions, and generally try not to give even cost of living raises.

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So, it doesn't even make sense to be stingy.


Fiscal responsibility is not stingy.

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hopefully that particular program will break even or even eventually make a small profit..................which has been shown to be possible with a women's basketball program.


Give an example of one women’s basketball program that’s been profitable in the last 10 years. Include a breakdown of their revenue and expenses.
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