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Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:59 pm to KosmoCramer
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1. Its good for players.
It's bad for the game and for the fans. And, the players willingly enter into the agreement to play.
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2. Anything that takes arbitrary decision making from the NCAA is usually a good thing.
This is retarded. Obviously, ANYTHING is not a good thing. Change that materially affects competitiveness and the balance of power isn't a good thing, IMO.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:08 pm to moneyg
The SEC can still deny transfers within the conference, FWIW.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:29 pm to moneyg
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This is retarded. Obviously, ANYTHING is not a good thing.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, eh?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:52 pm to BamaDude06
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Alabama has taken very few transfers under Saban, mainly because they just don't have room for them. Guys like Jake Coker and Landon Dickerson are rare exceptions (and ironically both transferred from FSU).
Alabama and others will make room if they have to. This is going to crush G5 schools with under-recruited elite players who no longer have to decide whether sitting out is worth it to transfer if they want more exposure at a major P5. The best programs, like recruiting high school players, will be at the front of the line. This isn’t about Alabama specifically, but the power balance of college football that has been an issue for years. For all the pundits clamoring for G5s to have a fair shake, that shot just got more remote. Like I said, this only benefits elite players and elite programs but gives a false sense of hope for other players who will inevitably make very poor, misguided, and emotional decisions. The transfer rule saved immature kids from themselves more times than not.
Another by-product is obviously roster management with the signing rules currently in place. Let’s say a coach is fired/leaves and 10 guys enter the portal, the signing class falls apart, and normal attrition happens, how is a school even able to get back to 85 players if they aren’t allowed to sign 25 players in one cycle?
The portal alone is a mess with there being hundreds more kids in the portal than scholarships available. Adding this rule to the fold is going to result in a complete shite show of young, immature teenagers ruing their chance at a free education, when in reality the only thing people seem to consider is how the standing rule affected elite NFL prospects like Fields. No sports league has unbridled free agency like this.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
I just don't understand why they would do this. Terrible for college sports.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:57 am to RLDSC FAN
At the end of the day, I'm for it. If coaches can just pack up and leave for a multimillion deal at another school, then why should the player be almost bound to his original school if he doesn't believe he's been given a fair shot, or they recruited someone who is a superstar at his position, but he could otherwise be a star on another team.
However, this will clearly put these primadonnas fully in charge of college athletics. Coaches will find themselves recruiting the same players for four years and having to cater to their every whim and tantrum. Discipline will almost become a thing of the past because coaches (and colleges as a whole) will fear losing several players if they dare to raise their voices.
ETA: Having said all of that, in this new rule there should be another rule that says coaches (even assistant coaches) that leave for another school are prevented from taking a transfer from the school they left. A coach shouldn't be able to possibly decimate his previous school by taking all the best players from that school.
However, this will clearly put these primadonnas fully in charge of college athletics. Coaches will find themselves recruiting the same players for four years and having to cater to their every whim and tantrum. Discipline will almost become a thing of the past because coaches (and colleges as a whole) will fear losing several players if they dare to raise their voices.
ETA: Having said all of that, in this new rule there should be another rule that says coaches (even assistant coaches) that leave for another school are prevented from taking a transfer from the school they left. A coach shouldn't be able to possibly decimate his previous school by taking all the best players from that school.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:09 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:48 am to MMauler
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coaches can just pack up and leave for a multimillion deal at another school, then why should the player be almost bound to his original school if he doesn't believe he's been given a fair shot, or they recruited
One is a professional, the other is an amateur. That’s why.
If you are picking a school because of a coach or the promise of playing time, you’re an idiot.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:52 am to TheeRealCarolina
Seem to me if the SEC is against it that means just transferring in the SEC. If a player from Georgia wanted to transfer to Ohio State what could Sankey do about it? Nothing. That is why the SEC won't be dragging their feet on this.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:21 am to RLDSC FAN
I like it, a commitment should mean something and this is a good compromise, a one-time transfer rule ensures that commitments still matter while still enabling student-athletes to transfer to a school and start anew if the first commitment doesn’t work out, good move by the NCAA
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:27 am to TheeRealCarolina
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If you are picking a school because of a coach or the promise of playing time, you’re an idiot
Theoretically, I’d agree. But if said player came to a school because of a scheme that fits his skillset the best, just to have a coaching change, with a scheme that no longer fits him, then that is where there’s inherent sympathy for players who transfer.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:34 am to TheeRealCarolina
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If you are picking a school because of a coach
Your takes are usually dumb. This one stand outs. Good job.
IF you signed at Alabama to play under Saban but he leaves and you end up with another Mike Shula, you aren't getting what you committed to.
Coaches have no loyalty to the school, why do you expect that of the players?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:34 am to TheeRealCarolina
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One is a professional, the other is an amateur. That’s why.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
I'm guessing you also believe that these stud athletes are true "student athletes" as well.
How many of the kids on the major P5 rosters do you think would have gotten into these colleges if it weren't for their athletic prowess?
How many would have gone to college AT ALL?
10%?
15%?
But, don't let me blow your fantasies out the f*cking window -- keep believing that the athletes are "amateurs" and the coaches are "professionals".
Then you can ask yourself -- why are "professionals" coaching "amateurs" in the first place?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:43 am to RLDSC FAN
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The one-time transfer rule for athletes in all sports has been approved by the NCAA
What if your not happy with the surgery and want to transition back?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:53 am to MMauler
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I'm guessing you also believe that these stud athletes are true "student athletes" as well.
Coach Saban has a graduation rate of 80% among his players. The fact that so many guys get a degree seems to be especially hard for you to take?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:54 am to bamameister
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Coach Saban has a graduation rate of 80% among his players. The fact that so many guys get a degree seems to be especially hard for you to take?
Your GSR for 2020 is actually 88 for football. Pretty impressive
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:59 am to RLDSC FAN
I wonder if this actually helps some G5 Schools to a point. They can recruit kids and offer immediate playing time with player knowing he can transfer if he blows up.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:23 am to RLDSC FAN
SunBelt conference going to benefit from this... the logistics just right for them to load up on SEC transfers... Bowden and Rich Rod going to be amazing at ULM
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:24 am to Dizz
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I wonder if this actually helps some G5 Schools to a point. They can recruit kids and offer immediate playing time with player knowing he can transfer if he blows up.
I doubt it. The mid-tier get guys that aren't good enough in Power 5 schools. The Big Boys get to cherry-pick misses due to poor evaluation and late developers. Advantage Power 5.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:26 am to bamameister
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Coach Saban has a graduation rate of 80% among his players. The fact that so many guys get a degree seems to be especially hard for you to take?
F*CKING PUHLEEZ.
What are the majors of these athletes? Who are the professors and what are the courses they are "encouraged" to enroll with/in?
Anyone who has been to college knows about the "Jock List" of classes and teachers.
Hell, just look at North Carolina and how they got their graduation rates up.
AND, that was at a time when there wasn't a requirement for graduation rates, i.e., UNC just wanted to brag about their FRAUDULENT graduation rate among athletes.
The ONLY reason all of these Football Schools have magically and suddenly increased their graduation rates is because they were forced to. These graduation rates are just about as FRAUDULENT as the FBI's investigation in sHitlary (or ANY Democrat since Odumbf*ck politicized the entire intelligence community). And, for good measure, I do not exclude LSU from that statement.
Anyone who went to one of these Football Schools saw it first hand. NOW, it's been put on steriods. Next time you are watching football just listen to the majors most of these players have. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that so many of them major in the same field at these university. It always seems to be either "communications" or "kinesiology" (or however that particular school tries to make it sound more scholarly).
SURE, there are a handful of kids who have real majors who win the academic awards and are highlighted at the end of the year. BUT, most of Saban's 80% are there for one thing -- FOOTBALL. And, the only reason they get their degrees is because highly paid tutors and "assistants" are there to hold their hand, AND, in many cases write all those papers and get copies of the tests to get them through.
Don't be so f*cking naive and gullible.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:28 am
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