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Fox: Minnesota officer who shot Daunte should have known difference between gun and Taser

Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:23 am
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51328 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:23 am
We are at full idiocracy

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"What stood out to me ... this was a senior police officer," Williams said. "This wasn’t a rookie. This is someone who had training. You expect someone with training, even in the cause of a situation like this, to take the appropriate action. She pulled out her Taser, she thought. What she actually pulled out was her gun."


Cutting edge analysis

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Posted by RiseUpATL
Member since Sep 2018
2214 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:29 am to
Ground breaking analysis.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41302 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:29 am to
Shouldn’t put cops lives in danger to see how they react. frick around and find out.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:33 am to
Ted Williams??? I cringe when that know-nothing comes on the TV.

He has added absolutely nothing to any "crime scene analysis" for the past 2 decades. He is a simpleton. I have no idea why FNC keeps putting his face on their screen.

However his 3rd grade observations are usually not entirely wrong - just pablum. I am surprised that he would fall on that side of the taser/pistol incident.

eta just read the link:
quote:

"This is not the first incident of this nature. There are other incidences ... where an officer believes they were pulling their Taser and in fact they wound up shooting and killing somebody with their gun."


So we have learned that there are instances of police making mistakes in highly active, vastly erratic, unpredictable situations where a criminal suddenly turns violent, attacks the police and tries to flee.

Maybe we should do away with tasers - just let it be known = "if you resist, we kill you - dead - on the spot - understand?"

I once was stopped by a constable on the outskirts of a small town in Arkansas (name of town was my surname). A tractor cutting grass on the side of the highway veered toward my lane, and instead of hitting the brakes, I veered across the yellow lane to avoid him had he continued to come onto the road. It was at the very beginning of a 'do not pass' line on the highway, but it was just a swerve like you would execute to avoid a dead pig in the road. No traffic anywhere in sight. The cop pulled me over and would not listen to my explanation. For some reason he told me to follow him back to the station. When we got there, the completed the ticket, and I asked when the case would be heard. He told me it would be no good for me to come back because he was also the Justice of the Peace and he would find me guilty, and add on cost of court, if I challenged it. I asked "Are you saying that you are the arresting officer and the judge in this case?" His reply = "if you say one more word I am going to add 'contempt of court' to the charges" - So I nodded and continued on my way.

Result? = I am still alive, and I have a good story that can be embellished to my own satisfaction for the next 60 years. well worth the $35 (approx??) cost and the last decades of life. I thought about writing to the governor or someone, but just didn't think it was worth it.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:54 am
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12740 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:35 am to
What do they expect when the talk down about cops. Who would want to be cop now ?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:38 am to
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Shouldn’t put cops lives in danger to see how they react. frick around and find out.



I’m sorry, but a suspect attempting to flee shouldn’t automatically give the police license to execute them. This isn’t Judge Dredd.
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51328 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:39 am to
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I’m sorry, but a suspect attempting to flee shouldn’t automatically give the police license to execute them. This isn’t Judge Dredd.


Yes because thats what happened here

She executed him for resisting arrest
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3606 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:40 am to
Ummm yes he should have.

If you as a tax payer are happy with the billions being spent on arming our police since 9/11 and the results you’ve seen, you aren’t conservative.

We have watched,even small town cops, get armored vehicles, military arms, and other equipment simply because they applied for a grant.

Stop taking up for the police (state). I’m not saying they are the devil the media makes them out to be, they definitely aren’t.

But they should be held to the same level as Biden, like when you appropriately call him out.

They are one and the same. The state.

Was he pulled over for a missing tag? I haven’t been following as closely as usual because I’m burnt out.

If so, a conservative would say, the state did murder this kid. If they didn’t rob people by making them pay for a tag and then have to pay cops to enforce those tags, the state (cops) very likely wouldn’t have killed this kid.


Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:40 am to
quote:

I’m sorry, but a suspect attempting to flee shouldn’t automatically give the police license to execute them. This isn’t Judge Dredd.


This is one of the cases - perhaps - where the police legitimately messed up.

Out of the 12 million or so arrests that happen annually in the US, it’s a rarity, not an epidemic.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
20635 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:41 am to
Yes, they should know the difference. Also, criminals should know that if they fight back or run the odds of them dying skyrocket. They’ll never learn.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:42 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43317 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:41 am to
quote:

attempting to flee


You don’t know that and neither does the officer. If you recall, the capital hill police officer was killed by a dude using his car as a weapon.

Bottom line: comply, comply, comply. Fight the cops in court and not the street.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:42 am to
quote:

She executed him for resisting arrest


She killed him because she couldn’t tell the difference between her taser and her Glock. That tells me, at the very least, that she shouldn’t have ever been a cop.

By the way, the suspect was also stupid for attempting to flee. He apparently was only on the hook for $350 for failing to make a Zoom court appearance.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:44 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41302 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:43 am to
Yea, well...they don’t know what he has in his car or what he’ll do with said car when he takes off. Should he be able to drag a couple of cops down the street? Maybe cripple one of them?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:47 am to
quote:

Yea, well...they don’t know what he has in his car or what he’ll do with said car when he takes off. Should he be able to drag a couple of cops down the street? Maybe cripple one of them?



That’s not the issue here. The issue here is that this cop was too scared/stupid to know the difference between her taser and her weapon. That speaks to her competence as a police officer. But rather than talking about that, we are trying to justify this officer’s stupidity by green lighting deadly force every time a suspect attempts to flee.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41302 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:03 am to
What if he would have had a gun in his console? You are totally missing the point. He put their lives in danger and he died.

Fleeing from cops has always been wrong . We can rewrite all the rules for criminals if you’d like.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:03 am to
quote:

I’m sorry, but a suspect attempting to flee shouldn’t automatically give the police license to execute them.


If this were an isolated incident, perhaps I could find agreement with that - BUT - do you realize that EVERY ONE of these riot-inducing incidents were ALWAYS ignited by not only a criminal action but an attempt to resist arrest. This is what is becoming a pandemic - black thugs thinking their blackness should give them immunity from any further crimes they commit what being apprehended.

I would not be surprised if this were not part of "the talk" these kids get from their mom - it is certainly a great addition to their 'street crew' in the hood.

When did this rash of violently resisting arrest for the most simple of infractions begin>?? It appears to be a culmination of a dependent society where two generations of poor blacks are bribed by the DEMs to subside on welfare handouts to be augmented by criminal activity that will be excused in big urban cities run by DEMs. Meanwhile they are taught to ridicule the police, never cooperate with police, and be heroes if they succeed and be a martyr if they fail (plus their families will become millionaires and they will get a plaza named after them).
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:04 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131540 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:04 am to
quote:

Ground breaking analysis.
This. The cop made a mistake. She would likely be the first to admit it.

But again, as with Chauvin's situation, it comes down to departmental training. This is not the first time such an accident has occurred. As with prone compression restraint, unless training and policy changes, it won't be the last.

Humans err. We make mistakes. Root cause analysis rather than individual castigation is the solution.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33184 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:10 am to
The pretext for the stop was an attempt to shakedown the citizenry to gain additional funds.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:11 am to
quote:

We are at full idiocracy

If you're cool with "Oops, my bad." when a cop accidentally shoots someone instead of tasing them, I agree with you.

At a minimum it's manslaughter. With all their training, it's reasonably negligent homicide. Assuming malice (which is unlikely), it's murder.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15015 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:13 am to
Criminal should have known the difference between right and wrong
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