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JJ Redick Podcast On The Trade To Dallas
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:43 am
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:43 am
JJ’s new podcast just dropped.
I know it was a point of debate around the context of the trade, and I know some of you don’t give a shite so this isn’t for you, but JJ goes into detail about the situation leading up to and through the trade.
Cliff Notes:
- Confirms that he did request the trade personally. Was honest, said it arose because he signed with the Pels because they offered the most but also to play with Jrue who he still has immense respect for and feels complimentary as a player with. But goes out of his way to also praise the fact he knows he’s going to look back on his career and think how great it was to play with generational, hall of fame level talent like BI and Zion.
- said the trade request he confirms he made arose due to a number factors: said he knew with the defensive emphasis and scheme Stan runs, and the loss of Jrue due to his defensive versatility, that he was going to continue losing minutes as the season went on and most importantly, that his son just started kindergarten and he wanted to be there to help out because it was a weird situation with Covid and other stuff. That protocols also make it almost impossible to see him.
- said he was initially going to request the trade BEFORE the season but Griff talked him out of it. Asked him to come to camp, give it a shot and promised that if it’s not right in a month or so we’ll send you to a situation that you’d like to be.
- was shocked at the news, heard it through his agent and tweets. Said Dallas was not one of the places he and Griff/Traj discussed in what had been 4 prior meetings where those promises were reiterated(that or a mutually beneficial buy out).
- Praises NOLA, his time in the city, a lot of our coaching staff, our players, and smaller guys in the organization and arena.
- Wants to emphasis he respects Dallas and none of this is a slight on them, but you could tell he’s not happy.
- Goes pretty hard on Griff/Trajan(while praising others not directly involved in trades). Says they(Griff/Trajan) are basically a dishonest group and that he basically warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you and that goes beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
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I know it was a point of debate around the context of the trade, and I know some of you don’t give a shite so this isn’t for you, but JJ goes into detail about the situation leading up to and through the trade.
Cliff Notes:
- Confirms that he did request the trade personally. Was honest, said it arose because he signed with the Pels because they offered the most but also to play with Jrue who he still has immense respect for and feels complimentary as a player with. But goes out of his way to also praise the fact he knows he’s going to look back on his career and think how great it was to play with generational, hall of fame level talent like BI and Zion.
- said the trade request he confirms he made arose due to a number factors: said he knew with the defensive emphasis and scheme Stan runs, and the loss of Jrue due to his defensive versatility, that he was going to continue losing minutes as the season went on and most importantly, that his son just started kindergarten and he wanted to be there to help out because it was a weird situation with Covid and other stuff. That protocols also make it almost impossible to see him.
- said he was initially going to request the trade BEFORE the season but Griff talked him out of it. Asked him to come to camp, give it a shot and promised that if it’s not right in a month or so we’ll send you to a situation that you’d like to be.
- was shocked at the news, heard it through his agent and tweets. Said Dallas was not one of the places he and Griff/Traj discussed in what had been 4 prior meetings where those promises were reiterated(that or a mutually beneficial buy out).
- Praises NOLA, his time in the city, a lot of our coaching staff, our players, and smaller guys in the organization and arena.
- Wants to emphasis he respects Dallas and none of this is a slight on them, but you could tell he’s not happy.
- Goes pretty hard on Griff/Trajan(while praising others not directly involved in trades). Says they(Griff/Trajan) are basically a dishonest group and that he basically warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you and that goes beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 11:48 am
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:47 am to Bronc
frick that dude. I had a lot of respect for him. Don’t come somewhere for the money then get pissed that they won’t trade you to where you want. You should’ve signed for less money to go to the place of your choice.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:49 am to Bronc
quote:Griff and Trajan's loyalties should lie 100% with the organization they work for. If they have a better offer from a team that isn't one of a player's desired locations, they would dumb to pass that up.
Goes pretty hard on our organization. Says they are basically a dishonest organization and that he warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:50 am to BigPerm30
Seems more complicated than that my man.
Seems like Redick was attempting to be as accommodating as possible, wanted to give them the offseason to find a mutually beneficial situation but Griff and Trajan basically strung him along, continued to make promises to him and then flat out broke them.
It’s not a good look for our organization.
Seems like Redick was attempting to be as accommodating as possible, wanted to give them the offseason to find a mutually beneficial situation but Griff and Trajan basically strung him along, continued to make promises to him and then flat out broke them.
It’s not a good look for our organization.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:50 am to Bronc
quote:
Goes pretty hard on Griff/Trajan(while praising others not directly involved in trades). Says they(Griff/Trajan) are basically a dishonest group and that he basically warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you and that goes beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
That’s pretty fricked up. It’s not like we sent him to Washington for Christ’s Sake. He’s playing next to Luka and Porzingis
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:51 am to Bronc
quote:
Says they are basically a dishonest organization and that he warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
Most of us here feel selling snake oil is Griff's most prominent skill, so I'm sure JJ is very justified in feeling he was mislead, but that seems like something that could be said about most organizations.
I guess the biggest fallout from this is potentially this summer. If you need Hart or Lonzo to "just wait a few days and I'll take care of you", I'm not sure I'd trust waiting a few days if I were them. I could see Hart especially losing money if Griff asks him to wait while he sorts out the bigger fish.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:51 am to Bronc
Was a huge JJ fan going back to his duke days... Maybe what he says has some validity maybe it doesnt.
But JJs trade value was non existent. They had to take what they can get. Maybe the intention initially was to try and get him to a spot he wants but shite happens.
I have not heard the podcast but dude you are within the last year or so of your career you really dont have much leverage here.
But JJs trade value was non existent. They had to take what they can get. Maybe the intention initially was to try and get him to a spot he wants but shite happens.
I have not heard the podcast but dude you are within the last year or so of your career you really dont have much leverage here.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:52 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
Griff and Trajan's loyalties should lie 100% with the organization they work for. If they have a better offer from a team that isn't one of a player's desired locations, they would dumb to pass that up.
And part of that job is to foster trust and a positive reputation with the players you will need to come play for your team.
How does gaining a reputation as being a snake oil salesman to free agents and guys on your roster that are going to hear promises from Griff about why they should stay here help the organization exactly?
This is going to have an impact that lasts well beyond the rather meaningless game of getting a weak marginal return out of a marginal role player
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:53 am to Bronc
quote:
It’s not a good look for our organization.
A disgruntled, fading vet doesn’t get traded to his preferred destination. Sounds more like sour grapes than true issues within the organization.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:54 am to Bronc
quote:
Goes pretty hard on Griff/Trajan(while praising others not directly involved in trades). Says they(Griff/Trajan) are basically a dishonest group and that he basically warns anyone in the future to not trust what Griff and Trajan tell you and that goes beyond the sort of self-interest motives any player should understand with an organization.
a reminder to this board why it's important to honor player's reasonable requests
shite like this + our war on Klutch is going to hurt us
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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our war on Klutch
frick klutch
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:56 am to Bronc
quote:
This is going to have an impact that lasts well beyond the rather meaningless game of getting a weak marginal return out of a marginal role player
I’m usually on board with you but this is an overreaction. Trading JJ Reddick is not going to be the move that breaks our organization. Any little piece of negative news and this fan base is waiting for the entire team to implode
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:57 am to Bronc
This definitely hurts a bit but Griff still gets a ton of good will throughout the league. I’m not sure this one incident will destroy his reputation or anything like that. Definitely not a good look but I’m not sure how big a deal it is. Especially after sending Jrue and AD to a legit contender like they wanted.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Terrible look for the organization. However, I would have hoped JJ was more professional than that. He is getting paid millions for a couple more months. Shut up and play for a couple of months and then decide where you want to go. You admitted you mainly came here because we offer the most $$$ yet now you want to dictate the terms of where to play the last couple months? What an unprofessional jerk.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
a reminder to this board why it's important to honor player's reasonable requests
What GM in the league would outright release a player when they could get at least something back for that player?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:59 am to WicKed WayZ
quote:
preferred destination. Sounds more like sour grapes than true issues within the organization.
Maybe try listening and reading for once?
More like a player that attempted to make early accommodations even BEFORE the season to find a mutually beneficial situation was strung along and habitually lied to.
There is no world where James Johnson is worth burning your reputation with players.
If Griff had simply made no promises or assurances then JJ would have no gripe, but Griff and Trajan SPECIFICALLY and continually used false promises to string him along and then betrayed those promises.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
a reminder to this board why it's important to honor player's reasonable requests
shite like this + our war on Klutch is going to hurt us
I guarantee that at some point a FA or player or Klutch will spurn the Pels and say this was one of the reasons....and that player will be full of fricking shite.
This has no change on any outcome.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:03 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Terrible look for the organization. However, I would have hoped JJ was more professional than that. He is getting paid millions for a couple more months. Shut up and play for a couple of months and then decide where you want to go. You admitted you mainly came here because we offer the most $$$ yet now you want to dictate the terms of where to play the last couple months? What an unprofessional jerk.
He was very professional and reasonable on the podcast.
These are cliff notes that highlight what I thought to be the key points people would care about, they don’t provide many details and context. Only about 60 seconds was spent on Trajan and Griff’s dishonesty, the segment was well thought out and very professional.
JJ has every right to tell his fans and people his experience.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:03 pm to Bronc
quote:
Maybe try listening and reading for once?
Maybe try not and be an antagonistic dickhead.
quote:
BEFORE the season to find a mutually beneficial situation was strung along and habitually lied to.
So you were there? This is only JJ’s side. He’s pissed he didn’t get traded to a team he wanted. Of course he’s going to lash out and paint the picture that makes him the saint.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:04 pm to Bronc
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self-interest motives
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JJ Redick
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