re: List of things black people can’t do because they lack ID’s.

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I attribute this to the fact that my position is invariably the better reasoned one.

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Wait, I thought you said you didn’t take a position - that you were only here to restate some facts.

You really should get your LIES straight.

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MMauler

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Let’s be serious.

You alleged that I claimed Voter ID is racist, and I showed you the posts in which I said exactly the opposite.

You alleged that I claimed Blacks do worse than Whites in the same socio-economic groups, and I showed you the post in which I said exactly the opposite.

And you completely ignored both of those issues thereafter.

How is it possible to have a reasonable discussion with such a person? You affirmatively-LIED about my STATED positions and then ignored the proof that you had done so. Is it even possible to be more disingenuous?

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This sort of thread is mildly entertaining, but substantively it misses the mark completely.

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/\ I am truly disappointed in this post /\

The only valid point is that NOBODY is being denied the right to vote for any sort of INABILITY to get a legitimate ID.

ANYONE with an ounce of 'want to' can get an ID - unless they are a hermit born in raised in a wilderness with no access to the civilized world - and anyone in that situation doesn't NEED - nay SHOULD NOT - be allowed to vote. What would be the basis of their vote??? = they know nothing - have no understanding of what the issue are - and apparently no realization that such a thing as 'voting' even exists!!!!@


WHY should the rest of society bend all the common sense rules to FORCE a ballot into their hand:????

Simple answer === So some DEMOCRAT apparatchik can fill it out for them and dump in into a stack with other equally illicit votes.

There is ZERO common sense reason to turn common sense upside down for some PHANTOM 'voter suppression" bullshite.

There are probably less than a 1000 people in the entire USA who might even have ANY real obstacle in getting an ID === IF THEY WANTED ONE~!~

These people DO NOT CARE TO VOTE if they have no incentive to seek out the registration process by themselves. And there are 100s of THOUSANDS of these 'don't care' vagrants == and that is the TARGET for all these lying DEMOSHIT blowhards screaming "voter suppression" ---- all they want is a NAME to be able to use for casting a "vote" in their stead.

This is so simple that it is difficult to understand any principled argument in its favor. it is nothing more than making a huge pile of ballots ready to attach some name to them.

And you know that - there is ZERO rationale for this 'universal registration" bullshite.

the only legitimate vote MUST have some sort of self=motivation to it.

ALL this is about is providing a

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Good Lord, you are clearly bright enough to understand that the proposition is NOT that NO Blacks can obtain a government ID, but rather that a larger percentage of Blacks than Whites lack the opportunity to do so. This sort of thread is mildly entertaining, but substantively it misses the mark completely. Those on the margins of society do not DO most of the listed activities..

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Do you believe that blacks are not responsible or smart enough to go to a dmv and get a state issued ID? You realize how condescending that sounds to black people right?

I’ll just go ahead and say it. If you are not responsible enough to obtain a government issued ID, then you prob have no business voting on how the country is run anyway.

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In the referenced posrt I was stating a simple fact. In other posts and threads I obviously argue substantive positions.

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OH, now I get it.

You come here and regurgitate and espouse a completely RACIST f*cking idea that "requiring voter I.D. card is racist."

Then, IN SUPPORT of that RACIST idea, you regurgitate a "fact" that is often used to support your BEYOND F*CKING RACIST AND OFFENSIVE position.

But, when someone hits the REPLY button to that "fact" post, you do not believe that they should be allowed to reference the overall RACIST f*cking idea that you have espoused throughout the string -- which is the ONLY F*CKING REASON you made that "fact" post in the f*cking first place.


Seriously, NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY BE AS F*CKING STUPID AND RACIST AS YOUR POSTS INDICATE THAT YOU ARE.

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Good Lord, you are clearly bright enough to understand that the proposition is NOT that NO Blacks can obtain a government ID, but rather that a larger percentage of Blacks than Whites lack the opportunity to do so.

This sort of thread is mildly entertaining, but substantively it misses the mark completely. Those on the margins of society do not DO most of the listed activities..

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the really funny thing is that fricktards like you think the answer to not adversely affect the tiny percentage of people who somehow can't manage to get an id is to completely prevent society from being able to run a secure election rather than just figuring out how to help this tiny fraction of a percentage of people obtain ids, something which would no doubt help them in countless other small ways as well. But no, we just have to have complete free for all , easily defrauded elections. I mean we all know why you guys want the elections like that, but the reasoning for it is so threadbare

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implying that you didn't take any position.

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Dude is an olympic champion. No one can run away from his own argument faster than Hank. No. One.

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For the umpteenth time, I do not oppose Voter ID. I think it makes perfect sense to confirm the identity of a potential voter.

The simple fact is that the objective data shows that Blacks are significantly more-likely than Whites to lack a government ID. Stating that fact does NOT suggest that Blacks are morally OR mentally deficient, as multiple posters have suggested. it is simply the existing state of affairs..

As such, Voter ID will have a disparate impact. To pretend otherwise is to put one’s head in the sand.

There are several possible responses to that disparity. One would be to say “tough cookies, go get an ID.” Another would be provision of free IDs. Still another would be loose identity confirmation requirements. The GOP leans to the former, and the Dems lean to the latter.

AGAIN, I too lean toward the former solution. I have ZERO problem expecting a voter to go to some minimal effort.

None of that addresses my initial point in this thread. The OP pretended that the Dems claim that all Blacks are INCAPABLE of getting an ID and purported to refute that non-claim by showing all the things for which folks need an ID. I posted that this is NOT the Dem point.

The Dem point is simply that the tiny percentage of folks who do not have an ID is higher among Blacks than among Whites and (the Dems claim) that this is because it is harder for those Blacks to do so. At NO POINT did I agree with the Dem position.

I simply showed that their ACTUAL point is not consistent with the suggestion of the OP.

Anyone who actually READ the post would understand this. The usual merry band of idiots simply saw my name and ASSUMED that I said something which I had not said.

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For the umpteenth time, I do not oppose Voter ID. I think it makes perfect sense to confirm the identity of a potential voter.

The simple fact is that the objective data shows that Blacks are significantly more-likely than Whites to lack a government ID. Stating that fact does NOT suggest that Blacks are morally OR mentally deficient, as multiple posters have suggested. it is simply the existing state of affairs..

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With the trillions of dollars being spent on god knows what I'm sure there's a few billion that could be used to ensure every American citizen who is of age to vote can be provided a ID for voter verification.

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You come here and regurgitate and espouse a completely RACIST f*cking idea that "requiring voter I.D. card is racist."

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I have shown you TWICE that I said exactly the opposite. Yet you continue to lie about my position. At this point, that can only be intentional prevarication.

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NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY BE AS F*CKING STUPID AND RACIST AS YOUR POSTS INDICATE THAT YOU ARE.

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Well, it would appear that you cannot read and understand Standard American English well-enough to grasp that you are completely misstating my position, so there is that.