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re: Ominous/Scary photographs
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:59 am to East Coast Band
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:59 am to East Coast Band
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Do we not think Dale Earnhardt died fairly instantaneously at the Speedway, and not later on at the hospital, as reported?
Same as the Gonzalo Rodriguez crash earlier in this thread. Basilar skull fracture with massive tears in the major arteries. Earnhardt’s cockpit photos show massive amount of blood. Death was instantaneous. Having the seen the “real time” perpendicular camera angle of the crash, the speed at which he hit the wall was absolutely brutal.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:04 pm to NWarty
So I watched the Gonzalo Rodriguez crash & I’m assuming the red stuff coming out of the vehicle that you can see right after he hit the wall & flipped forward is blood.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:08 pm to Hetfield
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So I watched the Gonzalo Rodriguez crash & I’m assuming the red stuff coming out of the vehicle that you can see right after he hit the wall & flipped forward is blood.
I’ve got to watch it closer, but having read OPs description of the post, combined with other eyewitness accounts, I’m assuming that’s what it is. Just crazy :(
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:50 pm to East Coast Band
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Do we not think Dale Earnhardt died fairly instantaneously at the Speedway, and not later on at the hospital, as reported?
I mentioned in my post that I just found out that there is a documentary based on Dr. Olvey's book, on Amazon Prime. I watched it last night, and one of the things Dr. Olvey mentioned was that after a fatal accident at Indy long ago, they decided, for multiple reasons, that it was best to transport the driver to a hospital first and declare the death at the hospital, instead of while the driver was still at the track. This could explain reports that believed Earnhardt was still alive when taken to the hospital.
(And as an aside, I also learned that the photo that I posted made it into the documentary, probably because it is literally the only photo of the accident as it was happening. The reason for that is that it was Saturday 9:00 am practice, and there were no other photographers where I was standing.)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:53 pm to NWarty
not sure the sweed savage crash pics can even be posted here.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:53 pm to Wtodd
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Yep, he was dead before his car stopped moving
He was dead 2 seconds after he hit the wall.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:58 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I believe they did the same with Senna. His collision with the wall appeared to be at more speed and a more direct angle than Earnhardt.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:03 pm to Gaston
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Looks like they just needed to cap both sides and run the rod through it...cap looking like a chain link. May have needed to put a fitting around the long rod ends to keep compression, maybe not though.
It was a really crappy connection detail that the EOR claimed was "conceptual" after the failure. Conceptual or not the detail made it through the whole approval process with nobody putting pen to paper to check the capacity of the connection.
They had two C-channels facing each other to form a makeshift box beam so it would be easier to trim out with metal studs/sheetrock. It was a very stupid design that didn't even meet code in the first place even before the approved field change that dramatically increased the shear stress on the connection.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:15 pm to SaintTigerPel
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While this isn’t him, it’s a picture taken in the same spot just a few minutes before Tate Graves is dragged in and killed by a gator at the Grand Floridian Resort in Disney World. I could definitely be seeing things, but when I zoom in to the kid’s right, about halfway into the grass, I think I see a gator staring at him.
I was literally walking around that same area roughly an hour ago. It’s all rocks from water to shore and then iron and steel fencing now.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:23 pm to indytiger
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Scotland yard analyzed the photo and said it was Tara. Another agency said it wasn't. It does look a lot like her, and there is a scar on her leg that matches. Also, there is a book in the photo that her mother said was her favorite.
FYI, I've read that the investigators believe Tara was hit by a truck, killed, and buried on the side of the road on the day she disappeared. They claim that they know who did it but with no body, they can't make an arrest.
They do not believe it was her in the picture.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:24 pm to TexasTiger08
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Pictures of the Hyatt Regency in Kansas City.
This is how it looks now as the KC Sheraton.
Link to the hotel now
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:25 pm to East Coast Band
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Do we not think Dale Earnhardt died fairly instantaneously at the Speedway, and not later on at the hospital, as reported?
Ken Schroeder has said he knew Dale was dead when he looked in the car before they even got him out of it. I believe he died the about a millisecond after he hit the wall.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:30 pm to goofball
One of the most horrific pictures I've ever seen is that Jordanian pilot locked in the cage with fire surrounding it because ISIS captured him and was burning him alive. Religion of peace strikes again.
There are pictures of him actually being consumed by the fire but I'm not posting them here.
There are pictures of him actually being consumed by the fire but I'm not posting them here.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:38 pm to VADawg
The Munich massacre was an attack during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, West Germany, by eight members of the Palestinian terrorist group Black September, who took nine members of the Israeli Olympic team hostage, after killing two of them previously, and killing them along with a West German police officer.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:06 pm to goofball
"anonymous"
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“Firing Squad in Iran” was a stunning black and white image of 11 Kurdish men being shot to death in a dusty field in the Iranian province of Kurdistan. Standing a few feet behind and to the right of the riflemen, an Iranian photographer, armed with his Nikon, his savvy and his courage, had recorded the scene. The Pulitzer Prize jury decided this was “probably the single most important photograph of 1979,” writing: “It is not only a picture of enduring and memorable quality but also has the power to shape the viewer’s feeling about a compelling international crisis.”
Ayatollah Khomeini and his theocracy had been in control of Iran for just a few months. When this close-up of a state execution appeared the next day across the front page of Iran’s biggest newspaper, Ettela’at, the nature of the Islamic Republic could no longer be denied. So the newspaper’s editor, fearing for the photographer’s safety, withheld his name. When UPI distributed the picture around the world, it did the same.
Thus it happened that in 1980, the Pulitzer Prize Board, on the advice of its jury, awarded the Spot News Photography prize to “an unnamed photographer of United Press International.”
Shortly afterward, in Popular Photography magazine, Harold Blumenfeld, one of the jurors who recommended the photo for the prize, wrote: “There’s still danger ahead for Anonymous since threats have been made by student militants who strongly objected to the worldwide publication of the picture. ... If Anonymous is identified, he or she might well become the subject of another Iranian execution photo.” Blumenfeld closed with the hope that some future “easing of world tensions” might allow Anonymous to accept the Pulitzer Prize and other press awards his photograph had won.
But for years to come, “Firing Squad in Iran” remained the only anonymous winner in the history of the Pulitzer Prizes.
In 2002, Joshua Prager, a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, saw the word “anonymous” where the shooter’s named should have been in a collection of Pulitzer-winning photographs. It bothered him. As he later told Editor & Publisher’s Joe Strupp, he found it “a glaring word.”
Prager decided to find “Anonymous.” The search took years. Finally, on Dec. 2, 2006, he reported on the front page of the Journal that the photographer was Jahangir Razmi of Tehran. Prager wrote that Razmi, who had worked for Ettela’at in 1979, had prints and contact sheets hidden in a closet at home that proved he had taken “Firing Squad.” Only after receiving his family’s blessing did Razmi agree to be identified publicly.
Prager’s revelation was huge, especially to Sig Gissler, the high-energy administrator of the Pulitzer Prizes. Soon Razmi had a visa, plane tickets for his first visit to the United States, and an invitation to the annual luncheon where the Pulitzer Prizes are awarded.
At long last, Razmi was to receive the 1980 Pulitzer Prize for Spot News Photography. It would happen in the rotunda of Low Memorial Library on the Columbia University campus on May 21, 2007, nearly 28 years after he took the winning picture.
This was going to be the most memorable event in my nine years on the Pulitzer board. Mike Pride, then editor of the Concord (N.H.) Monitor, and I were co-chairs of the Pulitzer Prize board that spring. Mike’s responsibilities included giving the annual luncheon address. So it was my good fortune to introduce Razmi and his wife Parvin and deliver the Pulitzer Prize to this courageous man.
I was humbled to welcome two other people to the luncheon who appreciated Razmi’s photography for personal reasons. They were the mother and sister of two men shot by that firing squad. Monir and Roya Nahid talked with me before lunch as we examined the picture. Monir Nahid knew it well. Before she and her daughter left Iran, she had carried “Firing Squad in Iran” to meetings and rallies to argue for Kurdish independence from the Islamic Republic.
I have always been in awe of work worthy of a Pulitzer Prize. But to me, what is really important is acknowledging the people who do this work, whether they are journalists, authors, composers, poets or playwrights. After all, it is they who produce and create such excellence.
Anonymity, as necessary as it was in 1979, robs the winner of the prize’s permanent glory. And it means a grateful public doesn’t know whom to admire and thank.
At the luncheon I was thrilled to point out Josh Prager to a roomful of Pulitzer winners and their families. Without Prager’s shoe leather and tenacity, Jahangir Razmi might never have received his due — or a standing ovation from dozens of others who know what it takes to earn a Pulitzer Prize.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:20 pm to Bigbee Hills
"Bangkok's Nasty Politics"
another pulitzer prize winning photograph. i hope the mods don't dr. seuss me/it
another pulitzer prize winning photograph. i hope the mods don't dr. seuss me/it
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Exactly four decades after his iconic photograph of the Oct 6, 1976, Thammasat massacre, Neal Ulevich reflects on the circumstances of history captured through the lens
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The photograph is brutal because the reality is brutal.
quote:https://www.bangkokpost.com/life/arts-and-entertainment/1098817/in-the-eye-of-the-storm
As memories fade and truth remains clouded, a particular photo has grown in implication, in reflection and in sheer horror. There's a lot of photographs and news footage from the morning of Oct 6, 1976, when the police and right-wing militia laid siege and attacked students at Thammasat University, killing and brutalising scores in one of the worst bloodsheds in Thailand's modern history. But it's the one image taken by AP photographer Neal Ulevich that encapsulates the senseless brutality, and the madness, of that morning 40 years ago: a mutilated corpse dangling from a tree in Sanam Luang as a man is about to bash the lifeless body with a folding chair. The photograph, even more chilling to some, also shows a boy standing among the onlookers laughing.
The importance of Ulevich's picture as a historical record is immense, becoming even more so over the decades as society has gone through other clashes of ideologies, leaving more dead bodies on the street. Today the "chair" photograph is invariably used to exemplify the worst outcome of a conflict spiralling out of control after nationalistic propaganda plants fear and hatred of political enemies. (In 1976 it was the communists.) The eerie power of the picture has also evolved over the past 40 years: it was used as an album cover of an American rock band (Ulevich didn't realise it until he saw it); it inspired several Thai theatre productions and movies; and has been used in countless satirical internet memes. The word kao-ee, or "chair" -- referring to the chair in the photo -- has also acquired a jokey, colloquial connotation in certain circles in Thailand, meaning a threat to those who have anti-establishment thoughts.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:27 pm to Bigbee Hills
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The word kao-ee, or "chair" -- referring to the chair in the photo -- has also acquired a jokey, colloquial connotation in certain circles in Thailand, meaning a threat to those who have anti-establishment thoughts.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:44 pm to Bigbee Hills
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Today the "chair" photograph is invariably used to exemplify the worst outcome of a conflict spiralling out of control after nationalistic propaganda plants fear and hatred of political enemies. (In 2021 it was the communists.
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