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Financial/Career advice wanted
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:11 pm
Cliff's:
I'm an operator at a plant but I want to do something different. I'm in my mid 30s and have saved a decent chunk. How much should I save before I leave and take a pay cut (at least temporarily)?
Details:
1. My job. I am, unfortunately, a plant baw. Not kidding. I don't particularly like it, but the money and benefits are decent. We can discuss plant bawness elsewhere, ha.
2. Saved it. Having learned I didn't particularly care for it, I began saving as much as possible over 15 years ago when I started. Maxed out my 401k and paid cash for everything....in hopes that I could retire early. Worked significant overtime as well.
3. Life. I got married and had a whole mess of kids, so retiring entirely, at least early, isn't going to happen like I planned. I still want to transition away from this job to something I enjoy and with a better quality of life.
4. Stats. I am in my mid 30s. Our house will be paid for by EOY, and we have no other debt. Vehicles are new. I would like to upgrade our home in approximately 5 years, with a marginal cost of approximately 200k. I have approximately 500k in retirement savings between Roth IRA and my 401k. I have a pension I'm vested in as well. I believe my "cash out", if I were to leave my job, is somewhere around 100k. I keep 50k cash in my savings at all times. Our kids are in good schools that do not require tuition.
5. The crux. I realize that while I have done well to have saved/invested what I did, it isn't enough to retire (now) on. But what I also think is that I have saved enough to where I don't necessarily need to keep stashing away money the way I have been. If I just leave my current investments alone, without adding much, it should grow at a rate to make me comfortable when I reach legal retirement age. I hope.
6. Options. Assuming #5 is true, and I don't need to continue to save as much, I can afford to take a pretty big pay cut, at least for a while. I would enjoy building furniture, for example, and I can realistically make 50k a year, with unlimited potential (unlike my current salary cap, albeit decent). We can live off 50k a year.
7. When? So when can I quit? I think that in 5 years or less I could have the cash(200k) needed for the home upgrade we want. Sooner if I use some or all of my pension "cash out". I'm not getting any younger though, and 5 years seems like forever right now. I'm content in the house we are in, so if I quit next year we would be comfortable in our modest, but paid for home. My wife is tired of me being a plant baw and wants me to leave yesterday. She doesn't care if we live in a mansion or a double wide on some land. She doesn't work (for now) though, so the provider pressure is all on me. I know every year I work makes it exponentially easier to transition, but at some point I just have to go. I want more of a metric for when, if that makes sense, and hope you all can help me.
8. Thanks for reading.
I'm an operator at a plant but I want to do something different. I'm in my mid 30s and have saved a decent chunk. How much should I save before I leave and take a pay cut (at least temporarily)?
Details:
1. My job. I am, unfortunately, a plant baw. Not kidding. I don't particularly like it, but the money and benefits are decent. We can discuss plant bawness elsewhere, ha.
2. Saved it. Having learned I didn't particularly care for it, I began saving as much as possible over 15 years ago when I started. Maxed out my 401k and paid cash for everything....in hopes that I could retire early. Worked significant overtime as well.
3. Life. I got married and had a whole mess of kids, so retiring entirely, at least early, isn't going to happen like I planned. I still want to transition away from this job to something I enjoy and with a better quality of life.
4. Stats. I am in my mid 30s. Our house will be paid for by EOY, and we have no other debt. Vehicles are new. I would like to upgrade our home in approximately 5 years, with a marginal cost of approximately 200k. I have approximately 500k in retirement savings between Roth IRA and my 401k. I have a pension I'm vested in as well. I believe my "cash out", if I were to leave my job, is somewhere around 100k. I keep 50k cash in my savings at all times. Our kids are in good schools that do not require tuition.
5. The crux. I realize that while I have done well to have saved/invested what I did, it isn't enough to retire (now) on. But what I also think is that I have saved enough to where I don't necessarily need to keep stashing away money the way I have been. If I just leave my current investments alone, without adding much, it should grow at a rate to make me comfortable when I reach legal retirement age. I hope.
6. Options. Assuming #5 is true, and I don't need to continue to save as much, I can afford to take a pretty big pay cut, at least for a while. I would enjoy building furniture, for example, and I can realistically make 50k a year, with unlimited potential (unlike my current salary cap, albeit decent). We can live off 50k a year.
7. When? So when can I quit? I think that in 5 years or less I could have the cash(200k) needed for the home upgrade we want. Sooner if I use some or all of my pension "cash out". I'm not getting any younger though, and 5 years seems like forever right now. I'm content in the house we are in, so if I quit next year we would be comfortable in our modest, but paid for home. My wife is tired of me being a plant baw and wants me to leave yesterday. She doesn't care if we live in a mansion or a double wide on some land. She doesn't work (for now) though, so the provider pressure is all on me. I know every year I work makes it exponentially easier to transition, but at some point I just have to go. I want more of a metric for when, if that makes sense, and hope you all can help me.
8. Thanks for reading.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:15 pm to PlantSaver
Look into a financial advisor. Thats what I did and happy with where i am at.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:16 pm to PlantSaver
If you're truly about to be debt free soon, wait until your home is paid for and since you are apparently doing so well with your investments, maybe transition to some bullshite job at Lowes or something along those lines. You'd still work a changing schedule but you'd be home much more than you are now, won't need as much income so the lower pay won't be a big deal, and your quality of life will improve. Maybe do that for a while while trying to figure out some kind of entrepreneurial idea.
Good luck to you.
Good luck to you.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:20 pm to PlantSaver
Don’t forget to calculate health care/insurance costs into your calculation.
ETA: assuming you are referencing starting your own business building furniture
ETA: assuming you are referencing starting your own business building furniture
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:20 pm to TDsngumbo
Biggest piece of advice I can give you...don't quit until you've accepted another job.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:24 pm to PlantSaver
Are you good at building furniture? Have you ever done it?
Also, does your wife work?
Also, does your wife work?
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:29 pm to PlantSaver
I know people love laughing at plant baws, but you're making good money.
What are your prospects of moving into a management type role for less money but potentially less stress and definitely more free time? Is that attractive to you?
A transition from within is probably much easier especially if you want to change trajectory.
What are your prospects of moving into a management type role for less money but potentially less stress and definitely more free time? Is that attractive to you?
A transition from within is probably much easier especially if you want to change trajectory.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:30 pm to PlantSaver
quote:Please expand on your basis for this information.
I can realistically make 50k a year, with unlimited potential
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:31 pm to Ron Cheramie
quote:
Are you good at building furniture? Have you ever done it?
Also, does your wife work?
Good questions that I forgot to address.
Yes, I'm good enough that I'm comfortable saying 50k a year would be my floor, more if I did other carpentry work.
My wife is a teacher who quit to raise our kids while I worked at the plant. She wants to go back to work in 3-5 years. That would take care of insurance without my needing to buy it on open market or seeking a job with those benefits.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:35 pm to PlantSaver
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This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:38 pm to PlantSaver
quote:
My wife is a teacher who quit to raise our kids while I worked at the plant. She wants to go back to work in 3-5 years. That would take care of insurance without my needing to buy it on open market or seeking a job with those benefits.
Sounds like a good plan. I wouldn’t quit my job and start the furniture gig until she starts back to work.
Save all you can the next 3 years
Congrats
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:41 pm to PlantSaver
quote:
2. Saved it. Having learned I didn't particularly care for it, I began saving as much as possible over 15 years ago when I started. Maxed out my 401k and paid cash for everything....in hopes that I could retire early. Worked significant overtime as well.
Vegas is calling your name. Time to unleash that nest egg on Craps table by going all in on Red!
Thank me later!
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:43 pm to PlantSaver
What you’re referring to is “Coast FIRE”
Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:34 pm to jimbeam
Interesting. I've heard of the FIRE movement, but never delved in.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:43 pm to PlantSaver
I am 66, life seems incredibly short at this point, don’t waste it in a job you hate.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:59 pm to PlantSaver
Without telling us the plant you work at (I'm an engineer at a plant. I guess I'm just a white collar Baw).
Are there other opportunities to pivot to within the plant that allow for future growth or change of lifestyle?
For instance: Guy I know was an operator. Hated it. Plant paid for him to get Fire Safety certified, and now he's EH&S. Weekday position. Better quality of a life. Not a huge cut in pay!
Basically what I'm saying is evaluate (maybe talk to your leader/mentor at work) what your growth opportunities or career pivots are at your current employer before throwing away a job that has provided a fantastic lifestyle for you and your family.
Are there other opportunities to pivot to within the plant that allow for future growth or change of lifestyle?
For instance: Guy I know was an operator. Hated it. Plant paid for him to get Fire Safety certified, and now he's EH&S. Weekday position. Better quality of a life. Not a huge cut in pay!
Basically what I'm saying is evaluate (maybe talk to your leader/mentor at work) what your growth opportunities or career pivots are at your current employer before throwing away a job that has provided a fantastic lifestyle for you and your family.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:22 pm to MrLSU
quote:
Craps table
quote:
all in on Red!

Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:27 pm to PlantSaver
quote:
I think that in 5 years or less I could have the cash(200k) needed for the home upgrade we want.
honestly, at these insanely low mortgage rates, id finance the house upgrade and then you can always pay it off early, but it will give you the flexibility to enjoy a life you want.
You are in a great position and have a valuable skillset that you could fall back on. Honestly if it's a total failure after a year or two, I'd imagine you could easily pick up another job at a plant.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:30 pm to castorinho
quote:
I know people love laughing at plant baws
Why is that, I wonder? Even if a person is a CEO, I have zero respect for anyone who looks down on somebody because of their job title or education level. No matter where a person is in life, there’s always somebody a rung higher.
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I got married and had a whole mess of kids,
You’ve done a fantastic job. But I’d say the kids’ higher education might be the next budget hurdle. Course, maybe they’ll get scholarships.
I enjoyed reading your post.
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