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re: Honest Zion talk for Emotional Intelligent Folks
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:51 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:51 pm to shel311
He's also likely still getting into game shape. Hard to give full effort if you're gassed. You can hide and and play in bursts on offense, but you get exposed on D. He is in pretty good shape, but NBA players in 2021 need to be in great shape.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:55 pm to shel311
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Revisionist history in play.
I thought The story was always need work on defense and got by on raw athleticism In college.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:58 pm to SammyTiger
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From @ESPNStatsInfo: Zion Williamson's 13-15 (.866) shooting is the highest FG pct in a 30-point game in Pelicans franchise history.
Also, he's the youngest player in the last 35 seasons with at least 30 points on 85% FG or better while also shooting 100% from the line.
Just dropping this in here to see if we can get 3 or 4 more pages outta this thing
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:00 pm to LesGeaux45
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Just dropping this in here to see if we can get 3 or 4 more pages outta this thing
Not sure the full reference of that, but if it's in anyway to tonight's round of posts, it's clear my issue with Zion was not on the offensive end
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:02 pm to shel311
Yeah I think that's the case for all of us
His effort on D tonight was encouraging. I especially liked in the fourth when he took on Fox 1:1 on D and got the stop. It was great to see him step up. Let's see more of it.
His effort on D tonight was encouraging. I especially liked in the fourth when he took on Fox 1:1 on D and got the stop. It was great to see him step up. Let's see more of it.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:06 pm to LesGeaux45
quote:Exactly, but Bronc seems to disagree lol. Glad you're pointing out that what I've said is seemingly just obvious shite
Yeah I think that's the case for all of us
quote:Completely agree, very positive performance tonight, encouraging to say the least.
His effort on D tonight was encouraging. I especially liked in the fourth when he took on Fox 1:1 on D and got the stop. It was great to see him step up. Let's see more of it.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:07 pm to shel311
A few lapses defensively for Zion, but it was his best defensive performance in a while. Good to see him trending upwards in that regard
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:09 pm to Pelefraan 1
quote:Yep.
A few lapses defensively for Zion, but it was his best defensive performance in a while. Good to see him trending upwards in that regard
The 2 main ones I recall are back to back at 122-115 he didn't box out and then next possession on a P&R from 30 feet out he should have recovered on his man but kinda half assed it and cost us a 2nd straight bucket.
But overall, the effort was there, and that's all I'd ask for.
Encouraging night, for sure. He D'ed up Fox on an iso I think in the 3rd quarter, and played it very well.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:53 pm to shel311
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Dude, just take the L.
Right! Zion lead us to a win on the road tonight. Can this dickhead shut the frick up already.
I swear this board.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:56 pm to SammyTiger
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I thought The story was always need work on defense and got by on raw athleticism In college.
Correct. Def not like AD where defense was an expected strength. And even AD took a few years to adjust in the league. He wasnt awesome on Defense right away.
Give Zion time. He is coming along nicely. The OP is retarded.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:59 pm to P bean
quote:A little reading comprehension would go a long way
Right! Zion lead us to a win on the road tonight. Can this dickhead shut the frick up already.
I swear this board.
This discussion started prior to tonight's game, this isn't that difficult to follow.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:59 pm to P bean
AD was downright terrible on D his first few years in the league
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:01 am to Pelefraan 1
quote:2nd team All Defense in year 3, but you're saying he was "downright terrible" in year 3
AD was downright terrible on D his first few years in the league
About that revisionist history.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:05 am to shel311
I overshot by a year
But he wasn't good early
But he wasn't good early
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:07 am to Pelefraan 1
Ok, really thinking back to AD initially, his on ball D was probably always pretty good.
It was his help defense that was lacking
It was his help defense that was lacking
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:08 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:13 am to Pelefraan 1
quote:Right, and that's understandable, something that comes with reps.
It was his help defense that was lacking
I don't complain about Zion defensively with rotational miscues, again cause that comes with time.
The concern is the lack of effort we often see. And again, it's not like that's a take way out of left field, many on here talk about it, virtually every Pels dude on twitter has talked about it.
Heck, even tonight's good effort has been noted in such a way that it's clear that hasn't been the norm, so I'm still not sure what L I'm supposed to be taking when everything I've said is something that been a concern for me most.
Don't more like tonight, and everything will be fine.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:26 am to P bean
He plays himself into game shape. All these stoppages in the season and even not being able to play much at Duke hurt his conditioning. He got soft and now he’s turning into the Rock. You can tell he’s soft when after the first shift out he looks like he had a shower.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:29 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:37 am to Pelicansfan69
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He plays himself into game shape. All these stoppages in the season and even not being able to play much at Duke hurt his conditioning.
Duke Zion was in great shape. You can tell by the way the jersey fits his body
He's got a similar amount of muscle mass now, but nowhere near as lean
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:38 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:31 am to LesGeaux45
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Just dropping this in here to see if we can get 3 or 4 more pages outta this thing
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on 85% FG or better while also shooting 100% from the line.
that's some random statistical levels
Zion had a great game last night but i hope the random cherry picking leads to 0 legitimate responses for this thread
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just watched Zion's highlights and one thing I noticed was BI's genuine excitement on the bench every time Zion made a play. He was constantly jumping out of his seat giving fists pumps and flexing. Has nothing to do with Zion's game but I just found it refreshing.
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