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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:39 am to bluemoons
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:39 am to bluemoons
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My tomato seedlings are outgrowing their 3" pots already. I need to get them in the ground.
Same. I have a pretty limited height that I can set my lights to. I am having to set them up outside every day. Hopefully after tonight/tomorrow morning I can have some temps that allow me to leave them out all the time with only an occasional temp drop to bring them in.
I can't trust the chickens around them though. It would be a massacre.
I shouldn't have started my pole beans so early. They grew so fast they got burned from the lights. They are recovering well though.
For peppers I went with long thing cayenne, poblano, grand bell, and early jalapeno.
Tomato I went with beefmaster and something that just said large fruited cherry.
Hopefully in the next week or 2 I can get a load of dirt delivered to fill my new beds. It's going to take a lot.
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:42 am to BallsEleven
I just got a couple of big beef plants from the seed store. 10 day forecast looks pretty good so I think I'm going to go ahead and plant them out today.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:44 am to bluemoons
My tomatoes are also starting to take off. I have mine in 4" pots. I can maybe go a couple more weeks, but then I'll have to get them in the ground. Going to wait as long as I can, cause I've been burned by a late frost before.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:43 am to bluemoons
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I think I'm going to go ahead and plant them out today.
Bold move Cotton!
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:55 am to BallsEleven
Right? It’s supposed to get down into the 30’s tonight. I’d at least wait till the weekend and then look at the 10 day forecast.Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:09 pm to PillageUrVillage
Risk/Reward
Risk: lose a few bucks if you have to replace them
Reward: early tomatoes
I support the move
Risk: lose a few bucks if you have to replace them
Reward: early tomatoes
I support the move
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:10 pm to DVA Tailgater
Sure. Then I’d at least wait till tomorrow. 30 degree weather and young tomato plant is mostly risk.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:47 pm to PillageUrVillage
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30 degree weather and young tomato plant is mostly risk.
That's no risk, that's a foregone conclusion they won't survive outdoors if it gets below freezing. Hell, a full grown mature tomato plant dies when it gets below freezing.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:54 pm to gumbo2176
I don’t know about below freezing, but it’s supposed to drop to mid 30’s tonight where I am. Risk of frost at least. I’m sure it won’t be too different for most of my south LA brethren.
ETA: After that, the forecast looks great! Lows in upper 40’s and 50’s.
ETA: After that, the forecast looks great! Lows in upper 40’s and 50’s.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:58 pm to PillageUrVillage
I live in SELA. We've got 36 tonight and then the lowest over the next 12 days is 45. I'm planting them in grow bags, so if it frosts or something, I'll just bring them inside. Highs during the day are high 60s and low 70s so what kind of person would I be to deprive these baby tomatoes of such prime growing conditions?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:01 pm to bluemoons
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I'm planting them in grow bags, I'll just bring them inside
Well then, you are set! Everything I said is moot!
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:27 am to PillageUrVillage
Dumb questions but I am growing peppers and tomato plants from seeds. These are being grown in a 72 pod growing tray under lights.
1) at what point should they be moved from that small pod to a larger container?
2) how big of a move should it be?
3) when moving the plants, should I try to loosen the roots or leave as is and let them grow on their own?
1) at what point should they be moved from that small pod to a larger container?
2) how big of a move should it be?
3) when moving the plants, should I try to loosen the roots or leave as is and let them grow on their own?
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:04 am to HailToTheChiz
Transplant when second set of leaves appear. I've transplanted bare root seedlings and the entire coir pellets - after ripping the mesh. Haven't been able to tell a difference with either method.
FYI- I usually transplant well after the second set of leaves appear, simply because I work it in when I can. Hasn't been a problem over the years. And it'll probably take the peppers awhile longer to have extra leaves, since they grow much slower than tomatoes. I transplant both at the same time.
FYI- I usually transplant well after the second set of leaves appear, simply because I work it in when I can. Hasn't been a problem over the years. And it'll probably take the peppers awhile longer to have extra leaves, since they grow much slower than tomatoes. I transplant both at the same time.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:20 pm to Bill Parker?
Thanks!
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:42 pm to HailToTheChiz
I haven't found tomatoes and peppers to be too difficult to transplant. You can loosen the roots a little. I've never really experienced any transplant shock with them. Certain things don't like having their roots disturbed, though. Cucumbers, beans, okra, and of course any type of root crop (carrots, turnips, etc.), so I've always direct sown.
I used to do the smaller trays and work them up to bigger pots with no problems. For the past few years I've just put the seeds directly in 4" pots to eliminate those steps. The drawback, of course, is that it takes up much more space requiring more lighting.
I used to do the smaller trays and work them up to bigger pots with no problems. For the past few years I've just put the seeds directly in 4" pots to eliminate those steps. The drawback, of course, is that it takes up much more space requiring more lighting.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:11 pm to PillageUrVillage
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used to do the smaller trays and work them up to bigger pots with no problems. For the past few years I've just put the seeds directly in 4" pots to eliminate those steps. The drawback, of course, is that it takes up much more space requiring more lighting.
Yeah the space and lighting prevented me from doing that this year
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:07 pm to HailToTheChiz
Set out all of seedlings this afternoon. They’ll get about 2 hours of afternoon sun in this spot. The forecast is looking cloudy the next couple of days. Still, I’ll work them more into the sun slowly.
Also, planted out all of my sunflowers and seeded the remaining space in my sunflower box. I have tons of seeds, so if we get a late frost and I lose any, it’s no big deal.
Also, planted out all of my sunflowers and seeded the remaining space in my sunflower box. I have tons of seeds, so if we get a late frost and I lose any, it’s no big deal.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 12:24 pm to PillageUrVillage
I think I’m going to plant out my Roma tomatoes today. They have exploded in growth over the last week and I can’t wait any longer. Crazy how fast they grew all of a sudden.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 12:28 pm to PillageUrVillage
How early do you start your seeds?
I probably started a bit late (2nd week of January), but I just potted up a week ago, and they are still only 3-4" tall at best. My Cherokee purples are no where near planting out size.
I probably started a bit late (2nd week of January), but I just potted up a week ago, and they are still only 3-4" tall at best. My Cherokee purples are no where near planting out size.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 12:29 pm to Cowboyfan89
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2nd week of January
That’s about when I started them.
ETA: they were about 4-5 inches tall when I set them outside at the beginning of the week. Been moving them more and more into the sun each day. I guess the sun and warmer weather did it.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 12:31 pm
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