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Decent sidearm for middle aged woman? Question is ammo of course. So revolver? Semi-auto?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:32 am
From what I can gather, there's basically no ammunition out there. Or is there something I'm missing?
I'm trying to come at this from the point of her (a relative, not wife, no pics sorry) being able to practice/get proficient with it so what could we find that matches up with available ammunition at this moment.
I'm trying to come at this from the point of her (a relative, not wife, no pics sorry) being able to practice/get proficient with it so what could we find that matches up with available ammunition at this moment.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:35 am to Comic_Tiger
quote:When we bought a pistol for my wife we did a lot of research. While a revolver makes a lot of sense on paper(I won't list all the objective aspects) the fact remains that when groups of women new to arms are given many different pistols to shoot, almost none prefer the pistols.
So revolver? Semi-auto?
I would suggest any of the many great semis out there, but be careful-my wife had the hardest time racking some of the slides, especially the really small cute models. We ended up with a Walther CCP. It had the easiest slide of all the pistols at Cabela's. I even liked it.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:41 am to Comic_Tiger
one option to think of, a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum can also shoot .38 special. Practice with the lesser recoil, more affordable .38 spcl. lead wadcutters and use .357M ammo for defense.


Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:45 am to AlxTgr
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I would suggest any of the many great semis out there, but be careful-my wife had the hardest time racking some of the slides, especially the really small cute models. We ended up with a Walther CCP. It had the easiest slide of all the pistols at Cabela's. I even liked it.
Yep. My wife hated the revolver at first. But it was a lightweight snubnose .38 special. So we tried a few semi-autos. We tried a Ruger P95, and she said it was heavy and didn't like the feel of the slide cycling. Tried a .380 the range had, felt too small in her hands. She eventually ended up liking the revolver the best, and she was a pretty good shot with it. She can rack the slide on my XDs just fine now, it is mostly about technique for women that are on the smaller side and they can't just rely on hand/arm strength.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:48 am to Comic_Tiger
Basically there is none. Now is the time that supporting your small gun shops pays dividends.
Not sure where you are located but find a small family owned gun store and pay 25$ more or sometimes less than a big box store for your gun. Tell them the situation they will sell you bullets with the sale if they have any as well as put you down or hold some for you as soon as they get some.
Get a semi (glock/sw/Springfield/ruger) all make good guns let her see what feels best and what she can rack the slide. Stay away from the cute guns(lcp/micro size) my wife and several other woman I have helped get started shooting and carrying don’t like them even though most at first think they will.
Not sure where you are located but find a small family owned gun store and pay 25$ more or sometimes less than a big box store for your gun. Tell them the situation they will sell you bullets with the sale if they have any as well as put you down or hold some for you as soon as they get some.
Get a semi (glock/sw/Springfield/ruger) all make good guns let her see what feels best and what she can rack the slide. Stay away from the cute guns(lcp/micro size) my wife and several other woman I have helped get started shooting and carrying don’t like them even though most at first think they will.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:50 am to Comic_Tiger
9mm is almost always going to be the most available cartridge (unless there is a medical condition that requires a lighter caliber).
You can buy all you want right now, online, but prices are 2-3 times what they were a year ago. You can buy 9mm at Academy on the days that shipments arrive (2-3 days per week).
The answer re which 9mm to buy, from a pure reliability standpoint, is almost always going to be Glock or M&P. There are plenty of other good quality pistols out there, but don't cut corners by looking for the cheapest one. Reliability is usually directly proportional to cost.
Don't go down the path of "which one feels the best." Get a good pistol and let her get used to the feel.
Try as many as you can afford to try. In BR Precision Indoor Range has several dozen rental guns - they charge $10/ gun and you have to buy their ammo.
P.S. You'll get plenty of personal preference recommendations on this (or any other internet) board. Any gun can malfunction - you want the one that (a) has the lowest liklihood of malfunctions and (b) the one she can shoot the best.
You can buy all you want right now, online, but prices are 2-3 times what they were a year ago. You can buy 9mm at Academy on the days that shipments arrive (2-3 days per week).
The answer re which 9mm to buy, from a pure reliability standpoint, is almost always going to be Glock or M&P. There are plenty of other good quality pistols out there, but don't cut corners by looking for the cheapest one. Reliability is usually directly proportional to cost.
Don't go down the path of "which one feels the best." Get a good pistol and let her get used to the feel.
Try as many as you can afford to try. In BR Precision Indoor Range has several dozen rental guns - they charge $10/ gun and you have to buy their ammo.
P.S. You'll get plenty of personal preference recommendations on this (or any other internet) board. Any gun can malfunction - you want the one that (a) has the lowest liklihood of malfunctions and (b) the one she can shoot the best.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:00 am to dawg23
quote:Which means any of them.
you want the one that (a) has the lowest liklihood of malfunctions
Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:12 am to AlxTgr
quote:Ammo physics remain the same, you have force going against resistance. So for a given caliber, the smaller the gun (less mass to the slide), the more resistance the spring will have to offer to keep from beating the gun up. And to keep recoil in line.
but be careful-my wife had the hardest time racking some of the slides, especially the really small cute models.
If it's small and racks easily, it will kick more, you won't like it as much, and won't shoot it a lot.
If it's a revolver, it will kick more than a pistol because there's no recoil-mitigating springs etc. It will be reliable if loaded, but it won't be shot nearly as often because it's uncomfortable in comparison.
My ex has a couple pistols, and she likes shooting an old steel-framed .32 acp the most. She carries something else for protection, and will occasionally shoot it just to stay familiar with it... but she LIKES the 32. It is the one gun she has, that she can shoot more than a box and still want to shoot more. She will actually call me (we're still friends) and ask if I want to go shooting at the range, so she can shoot it.
So, that's something you want.
Shooting is like anything else, if you like it, you will be more inclined to do it. And get better at it.
*Perhaps the best recommendation I would make, is to get a Beretta 81 in .32 acp, and to either get a complete 84 or a corresponding barrel and magazine in .380.
The .32 will be enjoyable, to the point that she might actually WANT to go shooting on occasion, and thus become proficient with it.
And then she can CARRY the .380 version with SD loads.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:39 am to Comic_Tiger
My grandma tried a couple different semis and had trouble using them. She eventually landed on a 28 special revolver made by tauras
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:40 pm to Comic_Tiger
Either a .380 or a "medium sized" 9mm like a Glock 19.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:50 pm to Comic_Tiger
38spl revolver. Small, easy to handle, easy to shoot, not too much recoil, not expensive.
All ammo is tough to find. Eventually you’ll find some 38spl. Don’t need much really. A box to practice then 5 hollow points to carry.
All ammo is tough to find. Eventually you’ll find some 38spl. Don’t need much really. A box to practice then 5 hollow points to carry.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:30 pm to AlxTgr
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Which means any of them.
It means a lot of them, but certainly not any of them.
"Come'on man" (as Biden would say). You know better than that. You and I have had this discussion before, so I'm not gonna rehash all the misconceptions that people have about the reliability of handguns.
If anyone thinks that LSP (or any state or federal LE agency), or the US Army (or any military organization) picks their handguns randomly, or based solely on cost, they are mistaken. The prospective purchasers prepare specifications for reliability (mean failure rate) and accuracy, and quite a few other factors (maybe size, capacity, whatever) and then do extensive testing to see which applicants meet the specifications. (Cost is a factor, but not the factor).
There are a lot of makes of handguns (revolvers and pistols) that have a track record of being reliable. And there are a lot with a track record for being unreliable.
If someone one wants to trust his life, or that of a family member, to the cheapest gun available, there are plenty of Lorcins, Ravens, Kel-Tecs, et al available all over the internet auction sites.
In fact I have an old (badly rusted) RG revolver that I'll let go for a very modest price.

Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:40 pm to AlxTgr
Make sure it fits her hand well. I would never own a glock. They are good guns but I don't like the handle or how they look.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 4:33 pm to Sparty3131
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would never own a glock. They are good guns but I don't like the handle or how they look.
So I’m not the only one! I think Glocks are hideous. Just hate their profile. Guns aren’t for looks so I’d still buy one despite that, but I don’t like their feel either.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 5:05 pm to AlxTgr
Walther is one of the best pistols on the market. PPK in 32ACP, P 22, PPS, and a Q4 SF. I should not have had them all on the boat that afternoon.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:47 pm to 4Ghost
My wife loves her Smith and Wesson revolvers.
No airweights. To snappy for them.
She shoots it fantastic. My sister has asked now to go with us when we go to the lease next weekend to shoot. She wants to learn. It floored me she wanted to shoot a handgun.
No airweights. To snappy for them.
She shoots it fantastic. My sister has asked now to go with us when we go to the lease next weekend to shoot. She wants to learn. It floored me she wanted to shoot a handgun.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:53 pm to thejudge
Awesome, another gun owner in the making.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:05 pm to 4Ghost
Yes. I was going to give her one of mine. My dad has a couple and said she can have on of his.
It's a .38 Smith with 4 inch barrel. Going to go next weekend I think and ride four wheelers and bring the kids to shoot. Might even camp out in my converted cargo trailer. Stars are beautiful when there is no light pollution.
It's a .38 Smith with 4 inch barrel. Going to go next weekend I think and ride four wheelers and bring the kids to shoot. Might even camp out in my converted cargo trailer. Stars are beautiful when there is no light pollution.
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