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Getting rid of Pelini and Linehan begs one question...
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm
We have paid Bo Pelini $5 million+ not to coach at LSU. Some more buyouts will be paid to Linehan. That is a lot of money for a hire that went wrong...especially when we are $80 million in the red due to the pandemic. Three years ago, we paid Canada $1 million to go away.
We go ahead and hire the next PGC and DC and these hires do not work out and next year again we pay another $3-5 million. How many more mistakes in hiring can we afford?
For the CEO (ace recruiter) head coach with 2 ace coordinators, model to work you need the HC to
[1] Hire good coordinators, who fit well into the program
Here coach has been 1/4. Canada, Linehan and Pelini were the misses and Joe Brady was high (I suspect more by accident than by design, considering that no one know him before our magical season)
[2] The HC should know what system to run, so that continuity is retained.
Coordinator's move frequently every 1-2 years. If you bring in a new coordinator and he keeps installing a new offense / defense each time, it will always be a disaster. You will never have the right personnel to run the system and when you have the right personnel you will have different coordinator. The players will hit the transfer portal in the off season and we will be paying buyouts post season.
Transitioning from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in a year without spring practice and truncated fall practice was not a good decision. Where was the adjustment and improvisation? Forget game time adjustments, what about pre season adjustments and adaptations to fit the skills of the players.
HC are paid to hire coordinators that fit the program and suite the system he wants to run and have the personnel to run
HC and the hired coordinator's are paid to make adjustments and improvise
Sadly, I feel that O neither knows what he wants to run, nor who to hire to keep the program going.
As history repeats itself over and over, we will be paying buyouts after buyouts and throw good money after bad.
We go ahead and hire the next PGC and DC and these hires do not work out and next year again we pay another $3-5 million. How many more mistakes in hiring can we afford?
For the CEO (ace recruiter) head coach with 2 ace coordinators, model to work you need the HC to
[1] Hire good coordinators, who fit well into the program
Here coach has been 1/4. Canada, Linehan and Pelini were the misses and Joe Brady was high (I suspect more by accident than by design, considering that no one know him before our magical season)
[2] The HC should know what system to run, so that continuity is retained.
Coordinator's move frequently every 1-2 years. If you bring in a new coordinator and he keeps installing a new offense / defense each time, it will always be a disaster. You will never have the right personnel to run the system and when you have the right personnel you will have different coordinator. The players will hit the transfer portal in the off season and we will be paying buyouts post season.
Transitioning from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in a year without spring practice and truncated fall practice was not a good decision. Where was the adjustment and improvisation? Forget game time adjustments, what about pre season adjustments and adaptations to fit the skills of the players.
HC are paid to hire coordinators that fit the program and suite the system he wants to run and have the personnel to run
HC and the hired coordinator's are paid to make adjustments and improvise
Sadly, I feel that O neither knows what he wants to run, nor who to hire to keep the program going.
As history repeats itself over and over, we will be paying buyouts after buyouts and throw good money after bad.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:48 pm to TotalPotato
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We have paid Bo Pelini $5 million+ not to coach at LSU.
What I read earlier is that they reached a mutually agreed upon settlement. I would assume that would be less than his contact buyout.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:03 pm to TotalPotato
quote:
We go ahead and hire the next PGC and DC and these hires do not work out and next year again we pay another $3-5 million
Better increase this amount. If this happens next year LSU will also have to buy out CEO
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:11 pm to TotalPotato
Auburn just paid their coach $21 million to not coach. R E L A X...
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:13 pm to TotalPotato
You lost your credibility by downplaying the Brady hire. Otherwise, I think your point was good.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:27 pm to TotalPotato
quote:
Some more buyouts will be paid to Linehan
Only have to pay Linehan a buyout if he left LSU and went to another SEC school as Offensive Coordinator
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:33 pm to High C
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What I read earlier is that they reached a mutually agreed upon settlement. I would assume that would be less than his contact buyout.
He was probably presented with 2 options. Either take a reduced buyout, or you can stay on as DC and continue to embarrass yourself to the point where no one will ever hire you to coach again.
Pelini made the right choice
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:36 pm to TotalPotato
Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job. Ours dont do that, we are not near the destination that Alabama is for great coordinators, for that matter we arent as good of a place as Georgia.
O has to show he can groom a man and offer him upward mobility consistently.
O has to show he can groom a man and offer him upward mobility consistently.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:39 pm to TotalPotato
quote:
$80 million in the red due to the pandemic
We lost $80 million in revenue does not equal we are $80 million dollars in the hole
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:40 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
we arent as good of a place as Georgia.
Which coordinators from Georgia have left to be HC?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:53 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job. Ours dont do that, we are not near the destination that Alabama is for great coordinators, for that matter we arent as good of a place as Georgia.
O has to show he can groom a man and offer him upward mobility consistently.
Bama is run by Nick Saban. He could hire 10 monkeys to coach under him and still recruit a top ranked class and win a NC. We are not Bama and our HC is not Nick Saban.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:58 pm to tigerfoot
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Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job.
Agreed, the young up and coming coordinators feel they can learn technical and program management aspects from Saban.
Any of Os coordinator hires will know more about game and play calling than O, and will learn little except Boudreaux jokes and Gumbo recipes that appeal to recruiting mamas.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:09 pm to TotalPotato
'WE' didn't pay anything. Some very wealthy people paid the sum.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:10 pm to Geauxldilocks
it amazes me have everyone on this board knows more about coaching and coaches than our AD and coach O.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:15 pm to Midtiger farm
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We lost $80 million in revenue does not equal we are $80 million dollars in the hole
A large portion of that will be made up in TV and Bowl sharing revenues.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:16 pm to TotalPotato
The SEC is a couple short years away from collecting a 300 million dollar check every year from ESPN
This is chump change in the long run even with the pandemic
This is chump change in the long run even with the pandemic
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:18 pm to Run DMC
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Only have to pay Linehan a buyout if he left LSU and went to another SEC school as Offensive Coordinator
That makes no sense. That circumstance would be a reason to trigger a payment FROM Linehan, not TO him.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:18 pm to Midtiger farm
quote:Mel Tucker
Which coordinators from Georgia have left to be HC?
And Pittman, although not a coordinator. And now Beamer which was on Smarts staff and was promoted to AHC at OU...now HC at USC. And Lanning is an up an comer. As a matter of fact I imagine Lanning is a P5 HC next year.
The trajectory coming out of UGA as a coach is really good.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:26 pm to OchoDedos
quote:Do you get bowl revenue sharing if you have banned yourself?
A large portion of that will be made up in TV and Bowl sharing revenues.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:28 pm to TotalPotato
Exactly. There’s fewer coaches that leave Saban’s teams and find success than those who leave and shite the bed.
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