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Coach O is 1-3 hiring coordinators, but is totally reliant on coodinators

Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
2153 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:54 am
Wins: Joe Brady
Losses: Matt Canada, Bo Pellini, and Scott Linehan

This is the record that deserves to get him fired, he brings nothing to the table x's and o's wise and he has struck out time and again on bringing in successful people. If he can't refill the coaching cupboard when its bare, then we have no shot at sustained success
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25898 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:55 am to
Where would you rank Ensfinger?
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:55 am to
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Wins: Joe Brady


I was informed by many in the know that Ensminger was the playcaller and responsible for the offense last year and Brady’s impact was overblown.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10196 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:57 am to
Yeah and this is the generous version honestly. Making Esminger OC, hiring Jerry Sullivan, etc.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:57 am to
1-4

He promoted E that was a hire
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
2153 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:00 am to
I was trying to make my numbers as conservative as possible. I dont think there's any arguing the 3 losses and cases could be made for a few more.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:03 am to
joe brady wasn't the coordinator, E was. does that really count?
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
2153 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:04 am to
Passing Game Coordinator...I do think Joe Brady's impact is hard to argue against
Posted by xtremecouture23
Pineville
Member since Sep 2010
1009 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:05 am to
We lucked into Brady. Slinger was going to talk to Lombardi about the offense. Lombardi couldn’t make it so they sent Brady. Slinger recommended Brady.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15743 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:07 am to
25% clip based on the CEO model of coaching is complete failure
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5483 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:09 am to
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he brings nothing to the table x's and o's wise


As much as I would like to provide a counterpoint, it can't be done. Based on what we have seen during his tenure, he appears to bring little to X and O planning and execution, especially game-day adjustments.

Coaches like Saban, Meyer, Dabo, L. Riley, Smart, etc bring their forte as a strong OFF or DEF X/O guy to the fight. Now with that said we have seen Pruitt, Herman and countless others struggle as HC, and they were considered DEF or OFF gurus.

It takes the complete package to consistently succeed at the college level. Organizational skills, staff/roster management, recruiter, motivator (aa it relates to your young players), and yes X & O oversight & final strategies to put those players in the best position to WIN.

Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9797 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:19 am to
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Brady’s impact was overblown.

So you're saying it's more plausible that E magically became a brilliant playcaller only in 2019 even though he had the same players in 2018. And then forgot again in 2020 where play calling is again uncreative like 2018?

Or maybe Brady came in, was almost certainly responsible for almost all offensive innovation, and left.

I see we've reverted back to max protect like in 2018. Looks like E is mysteriously forgetting the changes "he" implemented last season to get away from the terrible scheme he unquestionably used in 2018.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:21 am to
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emanresu

read the room
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:22 am to
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Coaches like Saban, Meyer, Dabo, L. Riley, Smart, etc bring their forte as a strong OFF or DEF X/O guy to the fight


Dabo is just the long-term success version of Orgeron. He doesn’t fit in that list at all.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62386 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:23 am to
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Dabo is just the long-term success version of Orgeron. He doesn’t fit in that list at all.


I thinks his record of success so far disproves your statement.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:27 am to
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I thinks his record of success so far disproves your statement.


quote:

Dabo is just the long-term success version of Orgeron. He doesn’t fit in that list at all.


Dabo brings no X’s and O’s to the table. He was a position coach prior to becoming HC, just like Orgeron, he’s just been able to maintain the level of success. He does not fit the list of guys that are able to take over one side of the footbal like Lincoln Riley or Nick Saban.

The poster I responded to stated he was among coaches that
quote:

bring their forte as a strong OFF or DEF X/O guy
. Regardless of his level of success, this statement isn’t true.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:29 am to
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was informed by many in the know that Ensminger was the playcaller and responsible for the offense last year and Brady’s impact was overblown


Don't forget the part where those same people told us we would be fine since we had Brady's playbook.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:41 am to
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he brings nothing to the table x's and o's wise


How do you know this? How many staff meetings have you attended?

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88673 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:43 am to
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How do you know this? How many staff meetings have you attended?


First play Troy 2017, O didn't know why our 3rd string back got the ball.

First half Bama 2020, O doesn't know why Stingley isn't covering Smith.

Those are straight from O
Posted by rustontiger7
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2018
43 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:47 am to
Serious question, but without the injury to Myles Brennan, would this year's offense be that bad?

I thought the offense in games 1-3 was pretty solid (save for the run game). Obviously has fallen off since then, but would Joe Brady be able to save us from this situation?
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 11:48 am
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