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re: Why are Pit Bull owners offended by facts?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:53 am to jcolding41
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:53 am to jcolding41
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A guy I know has a pit and when I tell him pits aren't a good dog to have around kids he goes on the whole "its how they're raised" tangent. He also gets pissed when others tell him he can't bring the dog to their houses because of neighborhood rules.
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Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:14 am to LSUgirl4
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*however, i never would trust any dog - not even my girl 1000% around a kid
So not even a toy poodle? Did you walk your dog at public parks?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:06 am to jcolding41
i don’t think size is an indicator of aggression. most small dogs i’ve met are much more aggressive than large dogs. but that’s just my personal experience and i understand the falsehoods in generalizing breeds by size or type.
i walked my dog off leash (but with a leash in my hand) after having her for 6+ years when i felt like i knew her on a personal level. i still told my family and friends to not trust her off leash when they would dog sit or walk her for me.
i honestly was never afraid of what my dog would do but what a person would do to provoke her.
i.e., if they would happen to come at my brother, sister, boyfriend, mom, or dad too fast or too aggressively... that did actually worry me. i tried my best to set my dog up for success - not failure. i think a lot of the pit owners today that experience dog bites don’t do this correctly.
and i also recognized that my dog’s breed certainly might go on the offensive and jump at someone who threatened her “pack” - as would most possessive/aggressive dogs.
i didn’t have a pit, but my dog did help socialize two pits to a point where they could have brother and sister dogs after living with my dog.
like i said, mine was a butterfly 99% of the time but i was aware that she was ~100lbs and stronger than i was(weird saying this in past tense
).
i dunno ... i think you treat all dogs as family members but remember that they’re still animals with instincts.
my loss is still very fresh so i might be speaking with bias but i stand by my logic.
although, i don’t cower to any dog - pit, dachshund, doberman or GSD...doesn’t matter. cause i want their sweet doggie smooches. if i get bit because i’m being a doggie loving douchebag, that’s on me.
i walked my dog off leash (but with a leash in my hand) after having her for 6+ years when i felt like i knew her on a personal level. i still told my family and friends to not trust her off leash when they would dog sit or walk her for me.
i honestly was never afraid of what my dog would do but what a person would do to provoke her.
i.e., if they would happen to come at my brother, sister, boyfriend, mom, or dad too fast or too aggressively... that did actually worry me. i tried my best to set my dog up for success - not failure. i think a lot of the pit owners today that experience dog bites don’t do this correctly.
and i also recognized that my dog’s breed certainly might go on the offensive and jump at someone who threatened her “pack” - as would most possessive/aggressive dogs.
i didn’t have a pit, but my dog did help socialize two pits to a point where they could have brother and sister dogs after living with my dog.
like i said, mine was a butterfly 99% of the time but i was aware that she was ~100lbs and stronger than i was(weird saying this in past tense
). i dunno ... i think you treat all dogs as family members but remember that they’re still animals with instincts.
my loss is still very fresh so i might be speaking with bias but i stand by my logic.
although, i don’t cower to any dog - pit, dachshund, doberman or GSD...doesn’t matter. cause i want their sweet doggie smooches. if i get bit because i’m being a doggie loving douchebag, that’s on me.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:07 am to LSUgirl4
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This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:12 am to puse01
good thinking. i’ll shorten it.
quote:go frick yourself.
puse
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:15 am to LSUgirl4
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i had an aggressive breed for 12 years that was/is highly stigmatized.
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i walked my dog off leash
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i still told my family and friends to not trust her off leash when they would dog sit or walk her for me.
i honestly was never afraid of what my dog would do but what a person would do to provoke her.
Great reason to NOT walk dogs like this off-leash.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:49 am to jcolding41
i feel like the more you post, the more you make it clear that you’re non-dog owning troll that’s baiting me like a mfer.
she was never at the park off leash. just my around my neighborhood. my neighbors knew her by name because she was such a scary looking beauty.
i beseech you now to stop any future misjudgments about my fallen best friend having only known what little i’ve said about her in this thread. i gave you my insight on aggressive breed dogs. that’s all you asked for. i didn’t ask for your grotesque generalizations on my personal situation that you have no knowledge on.
your overtly opinionated threads at such a late hour sounds a lot like personal insecurity projections. call my office if you need any professional help working through these issues.
g4 out.
she was never at the park off leash. just my around my neighborhood. my neighbors knew her by name because she was such a scary looking beauty.
i beseech you now to stop any future misjudgments about my fallen best friend having only known what little i’ve said about her in this thread. i gave you my insight on aggressive breed dogs. that’s all you asked for. i didn’t ask for your grotesque generalizations on my personal situation that you have no knowledge on.
your overtly opinionated threads at such a late hour sounds a lot like personal insecurity projections. call my office if you need any professional help working through these issues.
g4 out.Posted on 11/27/20 at 4:00 am to jcolding41
Fact. Out of 4.5 million PitBulls in the US, over 4.49 Million of them don't attack people.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 5:53 am to GeauxBichGeaux
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is that a fact?
Depends on who you ask.
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Posted on 11/27/20 at 5:59 am to GeauxBichGeaux
Look at that one, caught in the act of tasting that poor kid.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:05 am to cooLStorybreaUx
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Fact. Out of 4.5 million PitBulls in the US, over 4.49 Million of them don't attack people.
Fact:
According to Canine Journal, an organization that compiles and analyzes all of the dog bite attacks in the country, Pit bulls accounted for 284 deaths in those years. This is a staggering 65% of the overall dog related deaths, at 433 Americans killed between 2005 and 2017.
Fact: Pit bulls were responsible for the highest percentage of reported bites across all the studies (22.5%), followed by mixed breeds (21.2%), and German shepherds (17.8%). Mixed-breed dogs and pit bulls were found to have the highest relative risk of biting, as well as the highest average damage per bite.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:32 am to jcaz
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What kind of trash wants to bring their dog everywhere and gets pissed when they get told no? Leave your mutt at home.
This is exactly how I feel about dogs. They're fricking dogs, not kids, so leave them at the house when you go visit other people. Especially dogs that are allowed to jump on sofas and plop themselves wherever they want at your house. Not gonna happen at my house.
I'll put a big bowl of water on the porch and your dog can be out in the back yard while you visit. It is secure so it can't get out, and not be in my house.
If that offends you, leave your dog at home or keep on driving past my house-------your choice.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:47 am to BorrisMart
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That is what I was asking. lol. From the pictures the American one had the big block head and short legs and looked like it'd been repping 250 and the pit bull terrier one looked like a floppy eared goofy dog. I really don't know.
Pit Bulls are kind of like people, they come in all shapes and sizes. They can be "rangy" but with well defined muscular structure or short, squatty and heavily muscled.
I once kept pit bulls as pets many years ago and my dogs ran the gamut on shape and muscularity. I was given a book by a friend about Pit Bulls and their history in America and it was loaded with pictures of them.
Many of the dogs were family pets and there were also pictures of trained fighting dogs that went on to become Champions in the pit. Some of the pit champion dogs looked no different than a rescue mutt from the SPCA, while others looked like the canine version of Mr. Olympia.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 10:32 am to lsu777
Ahh. I have heard old timers refer to them as dogs they had as kids back in the 12 kid family days on the farm and what not. Interesting.
Edit: @Gumbo ahh I see good to know. Given that they carry a stigma they may be one of the breeds that tends to procreate with other random mixed breeds (for whatever reasons) and creates more variation in appearance and temperament. Who knows.
Edit: @Gumbo ahh I see good to know. Given that they carry a stigma they may be one of the breeds that tends to procreate with other random mixed breeds (for whatever reasons) and creates more variation in appearance and temperament. Who knows.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/27/20 at 10:48 am to MusclesofBrussels
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I would have whipped your arse if you talked about my pittie that way
You won't do shite, and one day some hero will put a bullet in that dogs head.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:01 am to GeauxBichGeaux
Those stupid arse pictures make me so mad. Putting a dog that unpredictable next to a baby is selfish and idiotic. It’s like having a loaded gun next to a baby.
Sure a pit isn’t going to maul every child 100% of the time, but why even risk it?
Sure a pit isn’t going to maul every child 100% of the time, but why even risk it?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:57 am to Hester Carries
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There are 2 type of people that buy pit bulls.
This is the most mind boggling part of this entire argument against pit bulls.
If you buy a dog of any kind, my opinion of you immediately drops. Doesn't matter if it's a lab, golden, retriever, aussie, or a pit. The person who buys a lab is just as shitty as the person who buys a pit.
Meanwhile, the pit/lab mix that we FOUND eating pine needles as a puppy gets us nasty looks because we "own a pit".
Buying a golden retriever with papers is so much more trashy than adopting an abused pit. Especially when many of you who buy these "non-aggressive" dogs will talk about how you will put a bullet in a dog as soon as it snaps at a child. Implying that you've been around enough trashy owners that a dog snapping at a child is a normal occurrence.
You REALLY want a puppy? I see them all the time on craigslist. But that doesn't matter, because many of you just want the papers that come with the dog.
People who buy dogs don't want a dog. They want something to show off and to fit in with the rest of the people in their deluded circle.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 12:06 pm to Odysseus32
Pit Bull owners are offended by facts for the same reason Trump supporters are offended by facts. They get so emotionally involved in their choice that rational thinking escapes them.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 12:47 pm to Odysseus32
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If you buy a dog of any kind
Baw we only working champion lineage Labs down here. Why don't we just give stray dogs the right to vote while we're at it, ammiright?
Posted on 11/27/20 at 12:56 pm to TDsngumbo
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Fact:
According to Canine Journal, an organization that compiles and analyzes all of the dog bite attacks in the country, Pit bulls accounted for 284 deaths in those years. This is a staggering 65% of the overall dog related deaths, at 433 Americans killed between 2005 and 2017.
Fact: Pit bulls were responsible for the highest percentage of reported bites across all the studies (22.5%), followed by mixed breeds (21.2%), and German shepherds (17.8%). Mixed-breed dogs and pit bulls were found to have the highest relative risk of biting, as well as the highest average damage per bite.
Sooo 24 deaths per year, with 4.5 million Pit bulls in the US.
Even when you account for attacks and not deaths, there are 4.49 million Pit Bulls who will never attack a person. Let's not look at those facts though, that wouldn't fit the ignorant stereotype.
Do you know how many people are killed by other people texting and driving?
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