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re: 10 teams have shown interest in Jrue
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:07 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:07 pm to brmark70816
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We have a lot invested in Ball. If they trade one, I don't think we get rid of the other. Now if we trade Ball, I could see us making a move into the top 3-6 to find a lead guard. But if we move Holiday, I think we give Ball another year.
I know I'm one of the only ones, but I love Ball's potential. Van Gundy has a nice history with developing PGs and I think he could help him out big time. People have to temper expectations though. I don't think Ball will ever be an all star. But he can be a solid starter and defensive stand out..
I don't think they trade both Jrue and Ball. I think Jrue is more likely, but that kinda depends on the conversations they have with Klutch. I want to see Ball play some off ball with a soli lead guard next to him.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:29 pm to Epic Cajun
"You forget so easily every year how Dell was desperate to put talent around AD but coukdnt because he had already traded away that years first. You never know when you have to attach a first to get rid of a bad contract or make a trade for a player that goes on the block unexpectedly."
I don't forget. Dell isn't here, AD isn't here, and we have a completely different organization. When are people like you going to realize that instead of living in the past? I didn't forget it pal I'm just not gonna spend every day thinking we are ran the same way.
Your post was stupid because we already have EXTRA firsts and draft picks. We didn't even have OUR draft picks then. So once again no I don't want to trade Jrue for more picks that won't do shite for us.
Attach a first to get rid of a bad contracts? We don't have any of those and we won't as long as people like you aren't running the team trying to trade Jrue for extra 2nd rd draft picks or picks after BI/ Zion aren't on our team.
Give me an argument that doesn't include you or anyone whining about what we did in the past and actually comparing it to the team/ organization we have now.
I don't forget. Dell isn't here, AD isn't here, and we have a completely different organization. When are people like you going to realize that instead of living in the past? I didn't forget it pal I'm just not gonna spend every day thinking we are ran the same way.
Your post was stupid because we already have EXTRA firsts and draft picks. We didn't even have OUR draft picks then. So once again no I don't want to trade Jrue for more picks that won't do shite for us.
Attach a first to get rid of a bad contracts? We don't have any of those and we won't as long as people like you aren't running the team trying to trade Jrue for extra 2nd rd draft picks or picks after BI/ Zion aren't on our team.
Give me an argument that doesn't include you or anyone whining about what we did in the past and actually comparing it to the team/ organization we have now.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:43 pm to brmark70816
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Van Gundy has a nice history with developing PGs and I think he could help him out big time.
He's not a PG.
Neither is Jrue.
Hence, we have no PG on the team.
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I don't think Ball will ever be an all star. But he can be a solid starter and defensive stand out..
I agree, but he's got a lot of work on the defensive side to get to that point. He needs to get stronger. Take 20 pounds from fat Zion and give 10 to Jaxson and 10 to Lonzo.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:04 pm to Epic Cajun
Who says no?
Ball and Miller to Phoenix for Rubio and a 2021 1st
Ball and Miller to Phoenix for Rubio and a 2021 1st
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:55 pm to Dantheman504
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we already have EXTRA firsts and draft picks.
We have a bunch of extra 2nd rounders and you can literally buy those from other teams. We have one extra 1st rounder over the next 4 years. People need to stop acting like we have some huge war chest of picks..
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:03 pm to BallHawk
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Who says no?
Ball and Miller to Phoenix for Rubio and a 2021 1st
Me
But really, it depends on how contract talks go with Lonzo, and how he feels about the possibility of playing off-ball. If he's convinced that he's a PG and wants a 20 mil salary, then I'm fine with getting what we can for him. If he's reasonable about contract #'s and being a role player for this team, then I want to see him in that role.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:07 pm to Epic Cajun
It's more how I view how the offense should operate.
I think BI is best as the primary initiator/ball handler a la Jimmy in Miami.
Need a secondary ballhandler/creator off the initial action or someone that can catch and shoot.
I think Ball can do the latter but don't trust him as the former in the half court. Rubio is a willing passer and good creator. While a downgrade on the 3pt shooting he makes enough. He's also better at attacking the rim and getting to the line. He's also under contract for 2 more years and avoids the potential Ball price tag
I think BI is best as the primary initiator/ball handler a la Jimmy in Miami.
Need a secondary ballhandler/creator off the initial action or someone that can catch and shoot.
I think Ball can do the latter but don't trust him as the former in the half court. Rubio is a willing passer and good creator. While a downgrade on the 3pt shooting he makes enough. He's also better at attacking the rim and getting to the line. He's also under contract for 2 more years and avoids the potential Ball price tag
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:13 pm to BallHawk
I think we need a better ball handler at the 1, I just don't think Rubio is the answer for me.
I still want a primary ball handler, I don't know if BI is good enough in that role.
I still want a primary ball handler, I don't know if BI is good enough in that role.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:13 pm to brmark70816
We have 2 1st rd picks from the Lakers and a pick swap over the next 5 years?
5 years:
7 1st round picks + 1 swap
11 2nd round picks
Who knows if we even draft half of those picks. What we should be focusing on is getting guys around BI/ Zion to help them get better ASAP. Look for young proven players that can have an impact > mouth watering for more draft picks.
"let's get a leader to help BI/ Zion"
"let's also surround them by nothing but rookies"
" we have barely any draft picks, what if we have to use a 1st to send out a bad contract that doesn't exist"
I mean some of the crap said on here makes no sense.
5 years:
7 1st round picks + 1 swap
11 2nd round picks
Who knows if we even draft half of those picks. What we should be focusing on is getting guys around BI/ Zion to help them get better ASAP. Look for young proven players that can have an impact > mouth watering for more draft picks.
"let's get a leader to help BI/ Zion"
"let's also surround them by nothing but rookies"
" we have barely any draft picks, what if we have to use a 1st to send out a bad contract that doesn't exist"
I mean some of the crap said on here makes no sense.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:29 pm to Dantheman504
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We have 2 1st rd picks from the Lakers and a pick swap over the next 5 years?
22 unprotected, 23 right to swap (Will still have Davis), 24 right to defer to 25 (so 6 years?)..
None of those picks are lottery picks or don't project to be.
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11 2nd round picks
I count 9, but doesn't really make a difference. Will move most of these.
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I mean some of the crap said on here makes no sense.
It's the offseason and nothing is going on. People want to talk and imagine possibilities. I'm pretty sure Griffin isn't surfing for ideas on here..
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:25 pm to Epic Cajun
We have been needing a true number 1 for awhile
They need to get a vet or start grooming a pick
They need to get a vet or start grooming a pick
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