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re: Katy TX is celebrating four new female Eagle Scouts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:05 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:05 am to idlewatcher
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No chance I would put my kid in a pedophile's line of sight.
If you put your kid in Scouts today, they would have more of a chance of being fricked by a teacher at school, then being molested by a Scout leader.
Today, not 50 years ago, but today, a scout leader molesting a scout is insanely rare, whereas every day just about we hear about a teacher diddling a student.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:05 am to WildManGoose
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If they're not coed then why not call it girl scouts?
I think some other organization has a trademark on that name. Something about cookies.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:07 am to BluegrassBelle
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They've gotten away from the things that made Girl Scouts fun in a lot of troops because of cookie sales.
To the girls, girl scouts is still fun cookies or no cookies. What's not fun is all the mama drama of the girls.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:09 am to LSUFanHouston
Lol texas is such a cuck state now
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:09 am to BluegrassBelle
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They've only done it to themselves. They've gotten away from the things that made Girl Scouts fun in a lot of troops because of cookie sales.
I have two daughters. They are very girly - both do dance, one does cheer, the other is in a choir, etc.
Both of them tried girl scouts twice each. They joined one troop, hated it, joined another, hated it. Both said it was stupid and boring and all they did was make crafts and sell stuff.
It's really ironic. Nationally, the Girl Scouts are all about liberalism and Girl Power, yet most of their troops only do arts and crafts, bake stuff, and sell cookies and nuts. You would think the national leaders would design a program that was full of teaching independence and "I don't need a man" yet none of that actually happens.
I think GSUSA is completely lost right now.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:10 am to Cdawg
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To the girls, girl scouts is still fun cookies or no cookies. What's not fun is all the mama drama of the girls.
It definitely depends on your troop leaders.
I helped out with one about a year ago (pre-COVID) and I was surprised at the lack of activities they had. The two meetings I went to were almost exclusively about cookie sales. It was really disappointing. When I was in GS, it was more about camping, earning badges, craft stuff, etc. and while we did cookie sales (we earned a trip to Kings Island) it wasn't anywhere close to the primary focus.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:13 am to LSUFanHouston
I have no knowledge, but the cynic in me says the Boy Scouts needed some good publicity, so these girls got fast tracked to Eagle. Also strange they are from the same troop. Their scout leader had to have a part in fast tracking the process as well.
To your point, it usually takes a Boy scout several years. Whether you like the parent organization or not a scout that achieves eagle should be very proud of what they had to accomplish to get the rank.
This feels like a participation trophy and I agree if the scouts got fast tracked through the program in 20 months did they achieve the accomplishment or did they just check the boxes to get the rank for publicity?
To your point, it usually takes a Boy scout several years. Whether you like the parent organization or not a scout that achieves eagle should be very proud of what they had to accomplish to get the rank.
This feels like a participation trophy and I agree if the scouts got fast tracked through the program in 20 months did they achieve the accomplishment or did they just check the boxes to get the rank for publicity?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:14 am to jbgleason
quote:If pedophilia and promoting radical academic gender theories is great, I guess
BSA is a great organization
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:17 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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If pedophilia and promoting radical academic gender theories is great, I guess
Neither of those things are part of the organization or its core mission. Both of those things are at the feet of people who have infiltrated the organization. Like many place, our government is a great example, there needs to be a purge every hundred years or so.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:18 am to LSUFanHouston
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If you put your kid in Scouts today, they would have more of a chance of being fricked by a teacher at school, then being molested by a Scout leader.
This! The security measures in Scouts these days is insanely over the top, and I'm perfectly fine with it being like that.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:19 am to BluegrassBelle
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When I was in GS, it was more about camping, earning badges, craft stuff, etc. and while we did cookie sales
That's what mine did. A lot of camping, earning badges, visiting different venues and outings. Cookie sales were not that big of a deal.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:20 am to sugar71
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Sad commentary on your church.
Or good commentary on my parents to not let a priest be alone with their small child while all these stories were coming out? He spoke to our Sunday School class all the time. He visited with us in groups. He went on volunteer outings with us.
Only the alter boys were really ever alone with him behind the scenes.
We aren't very religious either. I'm sure my parents could've requested I speak to the priest alone
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:24 am to jbgleason
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Neither of those things are part of the organization or its core mission
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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Unlike many of the O-T and many of my fellow Eagles, I didn't have any issue with the formation of girl troops.
Neither did I, I just didn't recognize them as actual Boy Scouts because, well, it's right there in the name.
I made Eagle in 2002.
20 months means they were fast tracked as a political stunt and these girls were used. Sad.
If they really did it legit, I am proud of them, but they are not Eagle Scouts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:30 am to LSUFanHouston
Can boys join girl scouts?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:31 am to jbgleason
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We have lost the skills that Scouting teaches....make a fire, cook something you kill and design a shelter
I don't disagree with that, but here is what I tell people about what I really learned in scouting:
I learned how to be self-reliant and self-motivated through the earning of ranks & merit badges. I learned how to set goals, form a plan, execute the plan, and earn it.
Learned some valuable shite at that age regarding personal finance, local/national/international citizenship, I learned how to deal with sudden unexpected emergencies through lifesaving merit badge, BSA lifeguard, CPR, first aid etc.
That put me ahead of 90% of the local dipshits at my age and most people I meet as an adult.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:34 am to LSUFanHouston
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To go from entry to Eagle in 20 months is... rather fast.
As a former scout who didn't reach Eagle, I agree, that is extremely fast. However, in the last 20 years or so I've noticed some scout organizations which appear to be rapid badge collection operations. They earn merit badges very quickly and in an organized manner. That was just different from my Troop back in the day where there were some organized activities for core stuff, but to advance you had to do a lot of independent work that the other scouts weren't doing. Putting the responsibility on the scouts slows the process down and builds self-motivation and self-reliance.
Considering the substantial decline in the organization since I was a member, it doesn't surprise me that there is pressure to advance new scouts, especially girls. Girls can do it, and can benefit from a true Boy Scout-style organization. No doubt. (The Girl Scouts organization was always a joke from a personal development standpoint.) But you make a valid observation here. Personal development takes time.
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