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Why do people think pessimism means someone doesn't WANT to win?

Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:41 pm
I see this in many places - in this message board and many others - if someone says, "I don't think Trump will win," people then pounce on him as if he said "I don't WANT Trump to win" - which is a totally different thing. People treat "I don't think Trump will win" as if it means the person isn't supporting Trump.

Do you take this same approach to sports as well - that if someone says, "I doubt LSU will win this upcoming game" that it means they aren't rooting for LSU? (or Bama, or Clemson, or Florida, or whatever your team is)
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:42 pm to
If you don’t have the heart for the battle, speak up and coins will be provided for your passage home. We would not die in that man’s presence, who fears his fellowship, to die with us.”
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:44 pm to

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Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35168 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:46 pm to
In many, many cases, those types of comments are clearly identifiable as trolling efforts. So I assume a great many people then view any and all such cases as trolling. Which is completely understandable in my view.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138168 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:47 pm to
The amount of new posters just jumping right into this board is interesting
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:59 pm to
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oogabooga68
I really SHOULD be paying rent. But the accommodations are just so damned SMALL.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

I see this in many places - in this message board and many others - if someone says, "I don't think Trump will win," people then pounce on him as if he said "I don't WANT Trump to win" - which is a totally different thing. People treat "I don't think Trump will win" as if it means the person isn't supporting Trump.



Because we have a lot of retards who might believe the person saying "I don't think Trump will win" and not vote.

But anyone who believes these polls after 2016 is a dumb son of a bitch.
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

If you don’t have the heart for the battle, speak up and coins will be provided for your passage home. We would not die in that man’s presence, who fears his fellowship, to die with us.”


By this logic, every single Trump supporter ought to predict victory all the time. And every football fan ought to predict an undefeated season and championship each year.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24819 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

The amount of new posters just jumping right into this board is interesting



This is a huge conservative political forum that brings in new posters from all across the interwebs. Moreso than ever now during presidential election season.

I was looking yesterday for the stats... does anyone else remember the stickied Chicken thread the day after the 2016 election? I think this site had something like tens of millions of page views that night. And the TD poli board will eclipse that # again this year. You're welcome Chicken


ETA: almost found what I was looking for

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/tech/tigerdroppings-traffic/67623437/
quote:

In Chicken's stickied post he says they got 90 million hits in November.

This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted by DemoJay
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2020
62 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

The amount of new posters just jumping right into this board is interesting


Was posting on a liberal KU board for the past several years. Have finally had enough of them this cycle and found this place.

Rock Chalk!
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8701 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:21 pm to
If you think Trump will not win it just shows that you are not very intelligent.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:27 pm to
The main issue is people are too eat up with politics in general. Another reason why the internet and SM has ruined society.

I have 2 colleagues from Greece, a country in a perpetual recession and prone to populism. They say the US is turning into Greece. Unemployed, sitting at cafes and bars, debating politics and not doing anything productive with their lives. So and so politician is going to fix everything by promising a bunch of nonsense they have no intention of ever following through on.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38591 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Because we have a lot of retards who might believe the person saying "I don't think Trump will win" and not vote.


Who in God’s name actually thinks like this?

If anything, being this far down in the polls should make more people vote then if it were a sure fire victory.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86531 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Do you take this same approach to sports as well - that if someone says, "I doubt LSU will win this upcoming game" that it means they aren't rooting for LSU? (or Bama, or Clemson, or Florida, or whatever your team is)
The Rant goes nuts on your arse if you do this.
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

If anything, being this far down in the polls should make more people vote then if it were a sure fire victory.


It doesn't, though. People generally turn out to vote in a close, narrow race, but if they perceive that one candidate is far, far ahead, they can become complacent or defeatist and not show up.
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