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re: Hillary’s emails, Pompeo’s smoke & mirror show and the utter corruption of the Deep State:

Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:21 pm to
This is nothing new.

Obama and Hillary funded the Arab Spring
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:52 pm to
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This is nothing new.

Obama and Hillary funded the Arab Spring
and nothing will ever come of it or anything they did. they are above the laws law.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 5:50 pm to
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This is nothing new.


You got that right. Recommended reading: America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East by Hugh Wilford.

This book of deep history focuses primarily on three CIA agents and their regime change efforts in three countries after WWII: Syria, Egypt and Iran. The key figure that emerges is Kermit “Kim” Roosevelt — grandson of Theodore. Roosevelt was recruited into the CIA to work in the Office of Policy Coordination, the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency.

A rather complicated chess game of competing powers in the newly formed CIA emerges — the Zionists vs. the anti-Zionists. And what a game it was. Wilford illustrates how these agent provocateurs were very short sighted in their schemes and largely viewed the indigenous populations of the Middle Eastern nations as simple pawns in a larger chess game between the Great Powers.

Kim Roosevelt, along with assistance from his cousin Archibald Roosevelt, masterminded the 1953 Iranian coup d'état which toppled nationalist prime minister Mohammed Mosaddeqh after Mosaddeqh nationalized the petroleum industry in Iran. Miles Copeland — a Birmingham Alabama native and the father of the famed rock musician Stewart — was also a CIA spook who was instrumental in shaping the Middle Eastern landscape after the end of WWII. Copeland helped orchestrate the first CIA military coup in the Arab world: the 1949 bloodless putsch by Colonel Husni al-Za’im in Syria. Archibald in turn orchestrated a second 1956 regime change operation in Syria after a violent counter-coup displaced the al-Za’im regime.

These CIA wunderkinds with blue-blood pedigrees viewed the nation states in the post-colonial era as blank slates to be shaped at will by their knowledge and intellect. Yet rather than fundamentally transform power relations in the Middle East to pro-American sentiment as promised, this spy clique of the Eastern Establishment inculcated a residual and generational resentment toward American meddling in the region that is still evident today. Whether it was braggadocio, naïveté or misplaced idealism, the failures of these nation building efforts shaped the modern Middle East that we know today.

The series of regime change operations in Syria and the ensuing instability ultimately pushed that nation closer to Moscow. The CIA’s initial backing of Egyptian General Mohamed Naguib — and his young protege General Gamal Abdel Nasser — likewise backfired when Nasser ousted his elder benefactor, turned his back on the West and nationalized the Suez Canal. As a tweak to the West, Nasser also opened diplomatic channels to the Soviet Union and supported the creation of a socialist pan-Arabic State. And of course, we all know the results of the festering resentment that finally resulted in the Iranian revolution.

Sadly, the game continues anew. The same doublespeak and false promises spew forth from the mouths of these Masters of the Universe types in our corrupt national security apparatus. Perhaps one can rule out the chaos and violent fury released upon the region after the Iraq War as an unforeseen contingency. Yet we have now seen a succession of four Middle Eastern nations — Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen — engulfed in violence and human catastrophe after US, NATO and Western military intervention. And now these Masters of the Universe want a war with Iran?

Not coincidentally, each of these repeated military interventions have been followed by a staggering refugee wave headed for Europe. Yet in the name of pluralism, Western nations are sternly lectured by many of these same ruling elites that it must open their borders to a deluge of immigrants whose values are wholly alien to pluralistic societies and must instead welcome these immigrants though they have demonstrated violent antagonism toward free societies?

At this point, naïveté can’t be blamed for these repeated failures. At this late stage, it is sheer madness to claim the situation in the Middle East is all an unforeseen accident. The pattern is established and is crystal clear for anyone who doesn’t regurgitate the p.c. platitudes of multiculturalism. The minute details and the exact coordination of the plan becomes irrelevant when the larger pattern is so clear. Chaos is indeed the goal.

Again, we can’t change the past. But must we be doomed to repeat it?



This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46686 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 6:07 pm to
We all agree Swampers should have been indicted and incarcerated 2 years ago.....what do we do?
Posted by JT
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2006
377 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 6:20 pm to
Why would you need to launder gold? If you're holding a gold bar, it's yours. What am I missing?
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9361 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 7:53 pm to
Hillary is not in office anymore, her political career is over, worry about the Putin loving fraudster in office currently.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18183 posts
Posted on 10/10/20 at 8:13 pm to
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We all agree Swampers should have been indicted and incarcerated 2 years ago.....what do we do?




God bless Trump, but even if he wins in November— and frankly the only way I see him losing is by election fraud — a Trump victory is at best simply kicking the can down the road. The Deep State horrors inflicted upon us in 2020 is a glimpse into our nation’s future.

The Feral Government now stands in opposition to philosophies and principles upon which America was founded. Secession is a means to address this injustice. Just to have it as a bargaining tool alone would be a tremendous power.

Thomas Jefferson authored the document that declared that the 13 colonies were separating from the Crown. Jefferson believed that the right of a people to secede from a tyrannical government was a natural right. Why? Overthrowing and abolishing an existing government is a much more violent remedy than simply seceding and withdrawing from it.

It is an absurdity of the first order to suggest that the nation’s founders did not view political secession as a remedy to tyranny. It is tantamount to claiming the illegitimacy of the American Revolution. Yet the Statist in both parties will have none of this talk, however. It is always the same arguments: we are too big; the economy is too interdependent; we will lose freedoms. Yet the real reason is that such talk is a bane to their very existence and the divide and conquer political system that keeps them in power.
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4465 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:45 pm to
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You got that right. The same applies to our repeated forays into Somalia, Yemen, the sub-Saharan & the Horn of Africa, etc...

Since at least the end of the Cold War, one of the largest criminal conspiracies against the American people and the Constitution has been the damnable lie that American lives should be risked by inserting our nation’s troops into these ancient sectarian conflicts in distant foreign lands.


Amen brother.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:54 pm to
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To pursue this line of questioning will lead to some very uncomfortable truths about the actual objectives of our foreign policy agenda in the Middle East. Everything we have been told about the war effort in the Middle East for at least the past quarter century has been a damnable lie....


Wait until the part about France comes out...

Ooooh, I really hope the part about France comes out!
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:03 am to
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Obama and Hillary funded the Arab Spring


Sorta but not really. They certainly supported it though. This is what led me to eventually end my career in intelligence. The moves made 0 sense abs made me question my life’s work.
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