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re: Hypocrisy of Both Sides- Own It
Posted on 9/22/20 at 2:28 am to bod312
Posted on 9/22/20 at 2:28 am to bod312
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So you are equating the normal process of SCOTUS nomination and appointment with adding seats to the SCOTUS and adding new states?
I am. All that is required for any of those things is a simple congressional majority and presidential signature.
Any rule saying that the Supreme Court has to have 9 justices or the Union has to have 50 states is just as made up as a rule saying you can't nominate and confirm a justice in an election year.
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 2:33 am
Posted on 9/22/20 at 5:49 am to Locke Wiggin
This board is far too small minded for reasonable opinions. Go frick off and let them rabble rabble rabble
Posted on 9/22/20 at 5:52 am to Locke Wiggin
Pretty sure the GOP gained Senate seats in the 2018 election, so obviously the country approves of how Mcconnell is running the show. Which, by the way, is 100% constitutional.
The Senate is going to do its job, just like it did in 2016.
The Senate is going to do its job, just like it did in 2016.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:02 am to krones
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That said, if (and it's a big if) both Biden wins in November and the Democrats take control of the Senate, the same logic will apply if they want to pack the court or admit new states to swing the Senate.
Democrats will have the votes, and as you say, dems will be the rules. They won't be 'stealing' anything.
This is stupid. There is following the rules and changing the rules.
First off, this is historically what happens.
Secondly, mitch is not hypocritical, he is following the rule of history that he followed last time.
Third, democrats place people in the court who change the law, Republicans place people in who follow the constitution. The latter is better.
Fourth, no one has packed the courts. That is findings changing the rules for temporary short gain. What will happen is Republicans will do the dame thing soon and we will swing dramatically back and forth with court decisions till theSupreme Court numbers 500 people.
Democrats changed the rules for needing just a simple majority. They did that so they could place very liberal judges on the Supreme Court.
What he should have done was placed someone like garland on the court before placing Kagan or Sotomayor. But instead they changed the rules.
I'm done with them. I hope the rest of the country is as well.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:03 am to ibldprplgld
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The Senate is going to do its job
I mean, there are a lot of things that make sense on here. This isn't one of them.. Congress hasn't been doing their job in decades at this point.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:09 am to Locke Wiggin
Obama was a lame duck and everyone believed Hillary was going to be the next president. The nomination was being preserved for her.
Trump is not a lame duck so no need to preserve the nomination.
If you can’t distinguish the two then you might want to consider calling your high school teachers and apologizing to them.
Trump is not a lame duck so no need to preserve the nomination.
If you can’t distinguish the two then you might want to consider calling your high school teachers and apologizing to them.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:11 am to oklahogjr
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This board is far too small minded for reasonable opinions.
Well, oh wise one, what is your “reasonable opinion”?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:15 am to kingfish225
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There is ZERO excuse if you're ok with this you don't give a shite about the constitution you didn't in 2016 and you don't today.
Member when you laughed and cheered when Harry Reid used the nuclear option to ram through judicial nominees? How awesome that was? Remember when McConnell said that one day the shoe would be on the other foot? And all you libs laughed and cheered?
Why are you crying now??? Your future was foretold. And Obama was stupid enough to leave a large number of judicial positions open.
Your anger is with Harry Reid. Not republicans.
Your own party failed you. Again. What you are seeing is the results of it.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:44 am to KosmoCramer
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The treatment that Brett Kavanaugh received in his confirmation was a bridge too far. It was an utter debacle that ruined a man's life for pure dastardly political gain. They shot for the king and missed. We didn't forget.
Exactly, and the impeachnent for Trump doing nothing wrong, and the fake Russian dossier. The Republicans owe the Democrats NOTHING.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:48 am to oklahogjr
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I mean, there are a lot of things that make sense on here. This isn't one of them.. Congress hasn't been doing their job in decades at this point.
There has been gridlock yes. But with regard to this SCOTUS appointment, there will not be because the Senate is ready to confirm Trump's nominee.
In this instance, Congress will do its job but Democrats are whining and crying and threatening armageddon because of it. Weird.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:48 am to Screaming Viking
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Well, oh wise one, what is your “reasonable opinion”?
Both sides are hypocrites who love to do nothing but ignore their own short comings and fallacies. All the while the sheep in here eat it up driving up ratings of the news agencies this place hates. It's quite possibly the dumbest cycle I've seen.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:58 am to oklahogjr
I think that most on here are well aware that we are talking about politicians here. Thus, they are all hypocrites. All of them.
Having said that, this scenario is about having the votes to proceed, nothing else. The constitution has no date/day limits, nor time constraints regarding nominating and approving a SC Justice. So, DJT gets another one!
Having said that, this scenario is about having the votes to proceed, nothing else. The constitution has no date/day limits, nor time constraints regarding nominating and approving a SC Justice. So, DJT gets another one!
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:01 am to Locke Wiggin
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I think Cocaine Mitch trying to distiguish the two is silly
No it isn't. There are clear differences:
2016 - there WAS going to be a new President in 2017. Incumbent was term-limited.
2016 - the opposing party to the President controlled the Senate
Neither of those conditions exist now.
What's silly is to nominate a guy under both of those conditions above and then bitch when the next guy does it under neither of those conditions.
Only 1 side is silly, but thanks for your concern.
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 7:02 am
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:02 am to Screaming Viking
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Having said that, this scenario is about having the votes to proceed, nothing else. The constitution has no date/day limits, nor time constraints regarding nominating and approving a SC Justice. So, DJT gets another one!
Exactly so why the rush? It just seems like we're about to do something stupid to rush through and push someone into a lifetime appointment.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:04 am to Ace Midnight
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What's silly is to nominate a guy under both of those conditions above and then bitch when the next guy does it under neither of those conditions.
What's silly is the gymnastics Republicans are doing to justify flip flopping. No one was laying out these conditions at the time. It was let the election decide then. Now that it's not your way you don't want that. It's fine, just admit the hackery jesus
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:07 am to Locke Wiggin
quote:Actually it isn't. There is significant historical precedent for his position (which hasn't changed since 2016)
I think Cocaine Mitch trying to distiguish the two is silly.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:15 am to Zahrim
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2016 used the biden rule of 1992, not hypocracy, it is using their own rules against them.
Apparently the down-voters do not understand the difference between a "lame duck" and one who is up for re-election.
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This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 7:16 am
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:16 am to Locke Wiggin
Don't care. This is exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed.
This is exactly the kind of thing the Republicans should be doing.
This is exactly the kind of thing the Republicans should be doing.
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 7:17 am
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:27 am to Locke Wiggin
Fk your "muh both sides" argument as it relates to ANYTHING.
The Left are OPENLY advocating not only the theft of an election, but the complete destruction of the country.
I don't care WHAT Trump and the spineless GOP have to do, destroy them UTTERLY!
The Left are OPENLY advocating not only the theft of an election, but the complete destruction of the country.
I don't care WHAT Trump and the spineless GOP have to do, destroy them UTTERLY!
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:29 am to oklahogjr
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What's silly is the gymnastics Republicans are doing to justify flip flopping.
Don't care if we have to flip-flop....
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