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re: Voting trend in Florida recently. Very worrisome.

Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3398 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:13 pm to
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I love how mail in voting automatically equals fraud that must be stopped


For the June primaries, 200,000 ballots were erroneously mailed to residents in Nevada who no longer resided at the address which they were registered.

You don't see this as problematic and trust the November counts to be accurate and not wrought with fraud?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:17 pm to
The issue in Florida is simple.

More liberals move here from liberal State's because the policies and taxation ran them out, but they somehow continue to believe this idealism.

So they ran away from the same idealism they elect. fricking idiots.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105561 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:23 pm to
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Well, voting is a right. So, it should be easy.


Voter ID's would make it extremely easy, and Absentee ballots exist for those who are physically incapable.

Throwing out mass mailings of ballots that don't require signatures is a recipe for issues. You can assume it benefits the left just by the mere fact they are pushing it so extremely hard, and it has nothing to do with fighting for voter rights.

Also, allowing people to mail so late against the election will mean no real results on election day. That is bullshite too.

In person voting with ID's is the most applicable way to accomplish elections with absentee for those needing it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164657 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:26 pm to
What voting trend. You know Florida’s more GOP than people give it credit for.

A Democrat hasn’t won a gubernatorial election in Florida since 1994 and Florida had two GOP US Senators.

Even on the Presidential side it’s gone GOP in 2000, 2004, and 2016 and the two times Obama won the state it was pretty close even in his popular vote blowout win in 2008 and very close in 2012.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68758 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:30 pm to
Are you talking about primaries among democrats? It would seem to me that the more extreme leftists would be the most motivated to vote in those.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:33 pm to
The people who have always lived here are largely Republican.

Leftist keep moving in though more and more. They run from their policies, but want them here. Makes no damn sense.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12523 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:38 pm to
I think real moderate democrats will vote republican . We had a Democrat school board member Lose in Polk that was a shocker. The republicans just need to show everyone how far left the Democrat candidates Are and they voters will vote against them. Mail in voting is a issue But I think we can overcome the cheating if everyone gets out to vote.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35233 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:39 pm to
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So it's fraud when mail in ballots decide an election?


The ones mailed from a trunk - yup.

Oh look, we found more ballots and after counting them, the Democrat’s just happened to win.

IIRC, the Governor of Pennsylvania is going to allow ballots to be counted the DAY AFTER THE ELECTION even if they don’t have a postmark. Orange Man Bad! TDS is real. When the Dems say “by any means necessary,” fraud like this is what I had in mind.
Posted by Donnie 9 inch
Mar A Lago
Member since Jul 2018
478 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:42 pm to
These are Dem primaries I am talking about. The radicals are more motivated for sure, but the increase was 36% for “first time voters” that returned a mail ballot. That’s a large percentage and if they were able to do this in the primaries they will turn around and do it to a higher percentage in the general when Orange Man V Biden is on the line. The increase in “first time voters” sending in mail in ballots in swing states will be huge and you can all guess which party is going to benefit from it.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17067 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:45 pm to
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You know Florida’s more GOP than people give it credit for.


Yep. Gonna be a red sweep here in November.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7656 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:56 pm to
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No, never said fraud is acceptable


We agree.

Do you think sending ballots out without a request from the voter could lead to fraud? Such as people voting more than once. People receiving a ballot which is not theirs and voting with it. People voting both via mail and in person since it is obvious we do not have systems to stop that at present?

How about mail carriers dumping the ballots? Could a conservative mail carrier not bring in ballots they believe are for democrats? Wouldn't that be easy? Worth the risk? It is impossible to eliminate fraud as you say.

We have held elections in person all across the country during this pandemic without much incidence at all. Why is mail in all of the sudden needed now? How about we just vote over 2-3 days in groups? Wouldn't that give us a better chance at an accurate election?

If mail in voting is pushed through, the election will be viewed as fraud by a large percentage of the country. Is that ok with you? Does our country need that right now? In person voting is just as safe as going to the grocery store, or a restaurant, or the doctor.

Common sense is all that is needed to understand that the push for mail in voting is being done for one purpose. The desire to rig the election.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16498 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Well, voting is a right. So, it should be easy.


Just as easy as buying guns (a right) which requirs an ID and a background check.
Posted by Angry Bruce Pearl
Florida
Member since Jul 2020
599 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:13 pm to
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What voting trend. You know Florida’s more GOP than people give it credit for.


We also don't mess around with hanging chads or any of that crap anymore. We had all ballots counted in a state with 9 million votes cast by midnight when Trump beat Hillary.
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