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Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:11 am to Fun Bunch
When he is not the 1st or 2nd scoring option , IMO , his turnovers go down. Has to be physically exhausting to be the best scoring option and best defender on a sub .500 team
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:13 am to Smedium27
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The problem is Jrue is incapable of playing PG consistently. The guy is a turnover machine.
Unfortunately so is our starting point guard lol
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:19 am to Fun Bunch
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This is actually my biggest thing believe it or not. Its something that guys like Dame are just elite at, and that is what we need.
What if I told you there was a guard on the current roster that shot 43% from 3 a year ago and shot 3.3 shots a game?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:20 am to Fun Bunch
I don’t think either of Zo or Jrue are the guards to take us there. Lonzo is supposed to be a passing and defending guard. Turnovers and defense looks like shite. Jrue is supposed to be a defending and all around offensive guard. Defense is shite, and turnovers all around.
When the AD trade went through, the buzz around this whole board was that we would have the best defensive backcourts in the league. We just watched Bodanovic put up 30 on us yesterday.
When the AD trade went through, the buzz around this whole board was that we would have the best defensive backcourts in the league. We just watched Bodanovic put up 30 on us yesterday.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:29 am to NolaTiger52
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, the buzz around this whole board was that we would have the best defensive backcourts in the league
I want to still believe this. I am hoping the lack of rim protection is hurting it. I am very upset with the lack of defense Lonzo showed in many games
I would almost say let Hart and Jrue be the back court. Both those guys would sacrifice their body for defense
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:33 am to Smedium27
Lonzo and BI should be our starting guards with Holiday as the sixth man. I think Ingram moving to SG would help his game and allow him to improve even more. We need a three and D SF
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:39 am to NolaTiger52
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When the AD trade went through, the buzz around this whole board was that we would have the best defensive backcourts in the league.
they won't be able to do much if Ingram and especially Zion are bad/terrible on D. that's why my answer was a center (who isn't a negative on offense)
get the right guys (and coach, obviously) as the final piece and watch jrue/ball improve
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:10 am to lovepurplelivegold14
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We need a three and D SF
Evan Fournier
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:17 am to Fun Bunch
Summer league/preseason NAW is legit a perfect fit for what we need. He shot like >40% on 3pt and was a great playmaker
Real season NAW... not so much
Real season NAW... not so much
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
I like how much Lonzo has progressed, but i would much rather try to trade him now while his value is up there than keep him.
I haven't seen anythign to tell me he's an elite defender. You can tell he has great knowledge of the game, but he's not a great defender one on one. He takes too many stupid chances instead of playing sound defense the whole time. He is a great rebounder and might be the best long outlet passer in the league.
I do not think he can be trusted to play playoff minutes in the clutch. I don't think he will ever be good at finishing at the rim. His free throw shooting is terrible. He's done a great job at getting better at 3's, but he's decision making on those 3's is terrible at times. THat's the same decision making i see on defense at times.
I'd rather stick with Jrue, and get a better PG. Ideally, I'd like to find that guy in the draft. I never thought the Jrue/Lonzo backcourt complimented each other, and i still don't.
I think Goran Dragic would be a great PG to have for the next 2 years while we wait on our PG of the future. Outside of 2019, he's been pretty healthy, although i know he has issues now so i'd like to make sure he isn't having injury issues with his age that are going to make him go downhill really quick. If he's ok physically, i'd have no problem trying to go after him in FA. 3 year deal with the third year partially guaranteed.
I haven't seen anythign to tell me he's an elite defender. You can tell he has great knowledge of the game, but he's not a great defender one on one. He takes too many stupid chances instead of playing sound defense the whole time. He is a great rebounder and might be the best long outlet passer in the league.
I do not think he can be trusted to play playoff minutes in the clutch. I don't think he will ever be good at finishing at the rim. His free throw shooting is terrible. He's done a great job at getting better at 3's, but he's decision making on those 3's is terrible at times. THat's the same decision making i see on defense at times.
I'd rather stick with Jrue, and get a better PG. Ideally, I'd like to find that guy in the draft. I never thought the Jrue/Lonzo backcourt complimented each other, and i still don't.
I think Goran Dragic would be a great PG to have for the next 2 years while we wait on our PG of the future. Outside of 2019, he's been pretty healthy, although i know he has issues now so i'd like to make sure he isn't having injury issues with his age that are going to make him go downhill really quick. If he's ok physically, i'd have no problem trying to go after him in FA. 3 year deal with the third year partially guaranteed.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 12:34 pm to Fun Bunch
We have nobody on this team that is awesome in the PnR with the ball in their hands. BI is probably the best, but he’s not Donovan Mitchell or Jayson Tatum. Jrue is a bit below that (though his numbers this year have been poor) and after those two guys everyone else is well below league average. Lonzo is atrocious.
I actually took a look at some guards the other thing, and one guy I like is Jordan Clarkson.
I actually took a look at some guards the other thing, and one guy I like is Jordan Clarkson.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 12:52 pm to Smedium27
Honestly would rather Jrue as the 6th man with Hart starting at the 2. Jrue being the first sub off the bench or running the 2nd unit with JJ may be very beneficial. Not only do we need a stretch big, I feel we need a 3&D guard & Hart may be a short fix or the answer. Zo, Hart & Ingram have chemistry and Jrue seems conservative with more talent around him.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 12:57 pm to Fun Bunch
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Do you consider Jrue Holiday and(/or) Lonzo Ball the Guards to take it to that level?
Guards are fine. You're always trying to fix the wrong things. Drop the constant rebuilding mindset bunch
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:00 pm to Lester Earl
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Drop the constant rebuilding mindset bunch
We are rebuilding.
The only players for sure on this team are BI and Zion.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:11 pm to Fun Bunch
We need two way 6'6 - 6'8 g/sf combos. Alot of 3s are made because our guys are too short even if in position to alter a shot. We are just too small as a team. Oh, and a big that can play D and make a jump shot once in a while. That's all.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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We are rebuilding.
The only players for sure on this team are BI and Zion.
shite has been rebuilt. Like you just said, you have your two main cogs, plus a 3rd guy in Jrue that you already missed the window to trade at max value.
Your mindset has been ruined by years of this crap bunch. You have your two guys and now it is just normal year to year decisions to be made. Thankfully the Pelicans have some nice draft capital to work with, and some contracts coming off the books if they wish to let some guys walk.
This isnt a rebuild anymore. They have a playoff caliber team, great young players and a very solid core of veteran players. A competent coach would be drooling over a chance to coach a group like this. It's sad this year has been wasted but next year most of them will return.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:20 pm to TeddyPadillac
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His free throw shooting is terrible. He's done a great job at getting better at 3's, but he's decision making on those 3's is terrible at times
Y'all really dont quit do yall
cried last year because he "couldnt shoot"
Goes from 32% to 37%
FT's go from 41% to 55%
He's still only 22. Even after ripping him and him showing improvement, you still cant see that he is an ascending player lol
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
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Thankfully the Pelicans have some nice draft capital to work with
Exactly.
This offseason was step 1 in a multi year rebuild. Griffin did a great job transforming the roster.
But IF we are ever the team that is a consistent 2nd and 3rd round playoff team, a lot of these guys won't even be here.
There is more than 1 offseason in an entire overhaul.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:22 pm to Lester Earl
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He's still only 22. Even after ripping him and him showing improvement, you still cant see that he is an ascending player lol
Lonzo is a possibly ascending player, but there is a decent chance he gets paid WAY more than he's worth for a variety of reasons beyond his play.
You giving him Jrue money this offseason?
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