Navy Recruiting - Anyone here know anything about it?

Yeah it’s all a lie

I could be wrong but I believe you have to denounce (officially) the non-US citizenship in order to be considered for the grades requiring a security clearance

ETA: Found it here. May be worth looking into further, as this is just one article. Third paragraph has the info you're looking for

And apparently renounce was the word I was looking for.. not denounce

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I could be wrong but I believe you have to denounce (officially) the non-US citizenship in order to be considered for the grades requiring a security clearance

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Well, shite.

It will be up to him, but I'd hate to see him give up his citizenship in his country of birth.

He is considering joining their navy, serve two or four years, then transfer to the U.S. Navy, which he's been told he can do. But I guess only with certain rates.

So, he is really limiting himself here with his choices?

He wants to get out and see the world. He wants to take the opportunities afforded to him by serving in both navies. He wants to learn a trade, and at the same time earn his college degree.

I guess he might just have to chose one or the other. It sucks, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Thanks for the advice.

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I've been told that anyone who has duel citizenship will not be able to hold any kind of rate in the U.S. Navy that would require a security clearance

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Everyone joining has a security clearance, most just never use it. It certainly does restrict some aspects. Had friends lose clearances for a DUI. I couldn't get a TS because my wife wasn't a citizen. I was a recruiter too, Fwiw, not navy though.

Yeah that's a tough call. Both my parents were in the Navy and wouldn't trade it for the world. My dad is from Lutcher and he's been able to go to places he never would've dreamed of going had he not served. Good on your son for signing up to serve his country.

Could also consider going to college first and then going in as an officer - if he's willing to delay joining for four years. I would imagine he can still make a great career in the USN even without being able to hold grades that require a security clearance. But on the other hand, serving in two different navies would be awesome as well. Best of luck to him.

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He wants to get out and see the world.

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It sounds like you've been talking to a recruiter already.

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Could also consider going to college first and then going in as an officer

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This is one of the reasons he wants to enlist after high school. He has said himself that he is not ready for college, and that he would not do well at this time. He wants to get his college degree, but he feels that the military will help him establish the focus he will need for college, plus Uncle Sam will pay the bill. He has his heart set on the Navy because his cousin did the same thing, and thusfar has done very well for himself in the service and has been to some really interesting places, ranging from Hong Kong to Greece.

He feels like he has missed out on travelling. He was born in Australia and visited Japan, but has been only in the U.S. since he was a year and a half old. He still has family in Australia that he could see while serving there.

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I've been told that anyone who has duel citizenship will not be able to hold any kind of rate in the U.S. Navy that would require a security clearance. Does that still leave a decent number of rates for someone to choose from, or severely limits them? If you've been a recruiter, does the duel citizenship leave out all security clearances, or just some of the higher ones?

I've talked to the local recruiter, and I can't always get a straight answer out of him....recruiters are gonna recruit.

I'm too much of an old bastard to enlist...this is for my son. He has a unique opportunity here, but I don't want to give him bad advice that will frick anything up.

No, the duel citizenship is not with an enemy nation, like China.

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I held dual citizenship (born on Army base in foreign country) when I enlisted in 1996. All I had to do was officially renounce my citizenship to the other country.

Didn't hinder my advancement or security clearances at all. In Fact I held a TS/SCI due to my job as a Radioman

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This is one of the reasons he wants to enlist after high school. He has said himself that he is not ready for college

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That was me at 18. I served, got out, worked in private sector then attended LSU at 26

The GI Bill paid me $2k/month to attend LSU.

Louisiana now grants discounted tuition for vets. Some states give free tuition. Lots of great opportunities out there

Don’t ask. Don’t tell.