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American Conservatism is Fiddling While Rome Burns

Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39362 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:31 am
From The American Conservative

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What is conservatism in America today? It’s hundreds of millions of dollars a year spent fiddling while Rome burns. It’s ideas with little to no consequence. It’s getting trampled all over by History, but while yelling Stop! Conservatism is the seven cheers for capitalism and the deafening silence on demographic change, feminism, and corporate malfeasance. It’s the same tired cast of speakers blathering about limited government almost a century after the New Deal. It’s the platitudinous Reagan quotes and the worn-out Buckley anecdotes. It’s the mindless optimism and the childish exhortations—if something can’t go on forever, it won’t!


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If it were only that, conservatism would simply be a harmless persuasion for nostalgic Baby Boomers. Or to be more generous, one big Benedict Option to offer a semblance of an alternative to the pervasive progressivism of our age. But conservatism is also the endless wars, the nation-building, and the outdated alliances. It’s the free trade fetish. It’s the foolish libertarianism that hates the government more than it loves America. It’s the unconscionable refusal to clamp down on immigration. Worst of all, conservatism is the cowardice and accommodation in the face of leftist hegemony. It’s the long list of enemies to the Right. It’s the court eunuchs and other members of the controlled opposition who offer an echo, but never a choice. It’s the faux grandstanding while living in fear of being called a racist.


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If this is conservatism, then we may be inclined to say, let the conservatives keep it. Perhaps the time has come for patriotic Americans tired of the Left desecrating all they hold dear to go beyond conservatism?


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Conservatism must therefore overhaul itself. If it refuses, then it should be left to die with the passage of time. A new Right, in any case, is already overtaking it. This new right, which of yet has no name, is anchored in the realization that the conservative project in America today is fundamentally a counterrevolutionary one. We lost. They won. Painful as it is to admit, we no longer feel at home in our own country. In this progressive theocracy in which all must worship at the altar of Wokeness, conservatism, if one can still even call it that, is more about overthrowing than conserving. Burke’s edifying exhortation—“Spartam nactus es; hanc exorna”—must be altered to suit the times: Sparta was your inheritance, now reclaim her.


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Ours is obviously a non-libertarian Right. The common enemy that justified an alliance with the free market fundamentalists is long gone. Today, libertarians actively side with our enemies: they promote open borders and empty prisons, and strengthen China’s hand through their consumer-focused economic policies. Ours is primarily a conservatism of countries and borders, citizens and families, none of which can take root in the barren libertarian soil of atomized individuals and global markets.


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As for our priorities, they are clear. We must confront the great threats of our time: unsustainable immigration levels and rapid demographic change; cratering fertility rates and collapsing families; the corrosive acids of neoliberalism and identity politics (in all their manifestations, from tech censorship to racial preferences); pathological white guilt; a political system largely unmoored from the consent of the governed; fiscal irresponsibility; and the emasculation of men through feminized education and various forms of soma that sap spiritedness (in particular pornography). In short, the entirety of the ruling class’s ideology must be discredited.


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The task before us is daunting. It may be insurmountable. But this much we know: unless we succeed, we will eventually be reduced to second-class citizenship in a declining country whose only solace will be the distant memory of former greatness.



Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:37 am to
If we don’t have the strength to fight, then we deserve to die out.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:37 am to
The problem with conservatives is all they do is “Haha hey look at those crazy leftists. One they they’ll grow up (they won’t and haven’t). They’ll never get anything changed in the US (they have). We have the constitution (that they don’t care about using as was intended). They’ll never affect me (they will).”

Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:38 am to
That must have been written by SCLibertarian.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14321 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:38 am to
Cool story bro.

ETA:

You won't listen to this, just like almost everyone else, but here goes. Republicans aren't conservatives. Equating the two is done much more for the sake of convenience than clarity or accuracy. At any given time, the percentage of republicans who are actually conservative is <20%.

That being said, one of the primary accomplishments that republicans are constantly sold short on is being a stumbling block to socialist democrats trying to implement their agenda. Socialist democrats would have destroyed this country 20 years ago if it weren't for republicans, conservative or not.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8051 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:40 am to
Hard to argue with the majority of this.

Title should say American Conservatism is Fiddling While Washington Burns. Or Minneapolis, or Portland, or Seattle,......
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:40 am to
Remember whey Romans thought they would never fall? Yea... were at that point too. The right sits around talking about the silent majority and we'll get them at the polls. Well, that isn't happening... we vote in Rinos. Trump loves America, but he isn't conservative. This progressive left that we've let slowly take over without any push back, for fear of being branded a bigot or racist, will be the downfall.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 10:41 am
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39362 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:41 am to
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That must have been written by SCLibertarian


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Ours is obviously a non-libertarian Right. The common enemy that justified an alliance with the free market fundamentalists is long gone.


Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39825 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:42 am to
I have to admit I'm inching closer and closer to Pat Buchanan every day.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:43 am to
Author is correct. We are in the Good Man Standing Idly By portion of civilizational suicide.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20858 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:45 am to
I'm waiting for the first (of several) "buy more guns and ammo" posts.
Posted by RaginSaint43
Member since Dec 2016
2360 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:49 am to
Sounds like he’s been reading Mencius Moldbug(Curtis Yarvin).

I like this article
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 11:04 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
44058 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:51 am to
I’m a Christian Conservative. I am teaching the next generation what it means to be a Christian first and let a biblical worldview guide political opinions.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:53 am to
The problem is if you are willing to fight you have to be willing to lose your job and have your family physically attacked by the leftist moonbats.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82811 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:55 am to
Coulda saved you a bunch of words and just called it White Nationalism. Possibly Judeo-Christian Nationalism, but even some concepts of Christianity are more tolerant and welcoming of immigrants than what you’re proposing.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
30190 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:56 am to
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Painful as it is to admit, we no longer feel at home in our own country.



Anyone care to dispute this?


IMO, it is, quite sadly, 100% accurate.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39362 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:58 am to
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Possibly Judeo-Christian Nationalism


Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76960 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:00 am to
That was the whole subject of this podcast.


Has Conservatism Failed?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117261 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:00 am to
“Modern” conservatism is owning the libs by adopting their policies from 2004. It’s disgusting.

But I guess the larger problem is that it is clear there will be no debate soon - no winning on the “issues”. We’re an economic collapse from strength v strength.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14321 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 11:01 am to
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The problem is if you are willing to fight you have to be willing to lose your job and have your family physically attacked by the leftist moonbats.


This. If you are going to fight people with little to nothing to lose, the consequences of not fighting have to be almost as bad as fighting and losing. We aren't there yet, but it's coming.
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