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re: Yall are so worried about RGB, but the REAL enemy is Justice John Roberts

Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:44 am to
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:44 am to
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Bush fricked everyone with this lopsided coward



You ever hear of the word "CONTEXT?"
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8039 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:55 am to
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nothing can be done about Roberts


He can take Scalia’s place on the next “hunting trip.”
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26705 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:02 am to
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People like this want to impeach a judge for not being ideological in a position that is SUPPOSED to be non-ideological.


No. We want a justice who will adhere to the Constitution of the United States. Roberts seems to ignore half the time. Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer and RGB have apparently never heard of nor read the Constitution.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22021 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:12 am to
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Y’all are so worried about RGB, but the REAL enemy is Justice John Roberts


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A judge who does not vote lockstep with either “camp” and who actually seems to conduct a non-political, legal analysis of each case?

Yeah, frick that guy.


Therein lies your misconception. There is only one proper method of "interpreting" the Constitution. It is original intent.

Any other method is the political analysis.

When Congress passed the Constitution and amendments, they argued and then voted on them. The word choices that were finally selected that they agreed on had meaning to them.
Then after passing they were sent and voted on by the States.
Large public debates were had on these and then the states ratified the Constitution and Amendments in kind.

Interpreting the constitution as a living document is a farce being perpetrated on us.

If we the people decide we want to give up rights, or, invent new ones, then the Constitution has a means for doing it.

It is the amendment process. The reason the Living Constitution side doesn't want to use the political and constitutional method of amending the Constitution is because they know it is too damn hard.

There they appoint activists as judges because it is much easier.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:25 am to
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There is only one proper method of "interpreting" the Constitution. It is original intent.
Therein lies YOUR misconception.

The most important element of a legal system is its ability to provide a uniform framework under which citizens can operate, with a reasonable expectation that a given set of rules will apply ... uniformly and to everyone. This notion is "Jurisprudence 101."

The Rules of Statutory Construction PROVIDE that element. THEY are what prevents EVERY case from devolving into the personal preferences and biases of a given judge ... or the differing notions of "original intent" of each judge.

FIRST, you look at the plain language of the document. MOST constitutional provision and MOST legislation are well-written and lack much (if any) ambiguity. In that instance, an impartial jurist will NEVER look to ANY other rule of statutory interpretation ... whether "original intent" or otherwise.

SECOND, and ONLY in the fact of ambiguity, you look to the other rules of interpretation ... including "original intent."

I agree with you on the "living document" nonsense. I am VERY MUCH a strict constructionist ... and we engage in Strict Construction by FOLLOWING the rules of interpretation.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 8:35 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17547 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:32 am to
It is amazing that justices only go left, never right
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13196 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 8:54 am to
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People like this want to impeach a judge for not being ideological in a position that is SUPPOSED to be non-ideological.


This latest decision from Roberts and the other 4 does leave open the door to if they are violating the US constitutions 1st Amendment rights to freedom of religion.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
721 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:06 am to
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Bush fricked everyone with this pick


Cannot trust a Bush to pick a Supreme Court justice. Remember David Souter. The Bush family are NOT conservatives. They are east coast transplants. I will give the elder Bush credit for being a good soldier, that is for sure
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
721 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:09 am to
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Let’s not forget


Thanks for telling this. I wondered why he picked Alito. Now I know
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
721 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:13 am to
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Leftist fall in love with all types of scum


Gotta say amen here. The Church is going to have to push back at some point. We are also under the constitution and have rights. We are Not governed by a Roman government as in Jesus day
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22103 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:22 am to
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A judge who does not vote lockstep with either “camp” and who actually seems to conduct a non-political,


Non political?

Roberts doesn't even try to maintain a consistent ideology within his own rulings.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:28 am to
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Roberts doesn't even try to maintain a consistent ideology within his own rulings.
EXACTLY

Far, far more often than not, he just follows the law as he sees it ... regardless of ideology.

That is NOT what I want in a legislator, but EXACTLY what I want in a judge.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:34 am to
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I have a theory that Roberts was appointed by a swamp rat president because he could be controlled through blackmail by swamp rats.
well its a dumb theory. it's very simple. he illegally adopted his kids and committed felony fraud in the process.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22103 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:36 am to
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EXACTLY


EXACTLY wrong. I’m not talking about political or partisan ideology, I’m talking about how he interprets the law. It varies depending on how he’s already decided to rule.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18159 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:58 am to
Novus ordo seclorum...

Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22856 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:09 am to
Roberts is letting a political agenda to balance the court drive his different interpretation for each case.

He shouldn’t be worried about court balance. He should be worried about consistent interpretation of the law.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18159 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:14 am to
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Far, far more often than not, he just follows the law as he sees it



So feelings? And this explains why the SCOTUS has ruled in favor of the anti-scientific and frankly insane notion that a man born a man has a “right” to be called a woman.


Feelings, whoa, oh, oh, feelings....


Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5158 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:14 am to
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People like this want to impeach a judge for not being ideological in a position that is SUPPOSED to be non-ideological.


Ahem. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is non-Ideological?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:16 am to
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Ruth Bader Ginsberg is non-Ideological?
Where have I ever said that?

We are discussing Roberts.

RBG does tend toward result-driven analysis.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12114 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:17 am to
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I have a theory that Roberts is trying to save the court from packing under a Democratic administration.



I have a theory that the Deep State has videos of Roberts and a Sheep.
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