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Religious Propaganda and Children

Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:59 pm
At what age do you believe it is appropriate to introduce children to topics of religion by way of media?

I am irreligious, and most of my upbringing was such. My lovely wife (No pic) grew up Catholic; though she clearly didn’t pay much attention because she doesn’t do butt stuff. She is now also irreligious, but worries that our children will become social pariahs if they have no knowledge of Christianity—they won’t—so she has been showing the kids, both under 5, child-focused Christianity propaganda films and literature. She has no intent or desire to take them to church.

I always imagined that I would only support and endeavor their religious exploration when our children possess the intellectual wherewithal to question and judge such complex ideas. That said, they generally dislike and resist the content, so I have resigned my position to letting it burn out under the guidance of my wife’s soft conviction.

What is the normal course of things from your vantage point?
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:01 pm to
I’m religious but could do much better. I’d say around 6-7 I started talking to my kids about religion
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:05 pm to
Why are you relying on films and children’s books to teach your children about religion?
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:05 pm to
3 years 6 months
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

At what age do you believe it is appropriate to introduce children to topics of religion by way of media?


When they're old enough to choose to seek it out themselves.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:08 pm to
I'm not religious but we send our child to a church day care. They can handle it. When he's old enough to ask about it, I'll speak with him honestly that some people believe and some people don't and that's ok.

And that the message is the really important part. Love and treat all others as you would like to be loved and treated.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Why are you relying on films and children’s books to teach your children about religion?

I’m not, my wife is. And it is because she is being lazy about it.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:14 pm to
i am pleased that third leg exists.

an adult approach.

you can raise it up a level.

the yin yang symbol is a great teaching and kids can see it.

there is only the One Divine All.
the sound of two hands clapping patty-cakes.
Posted by OldSouth
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:17 pm to
Dude. It’s either true or it’s not, pick a side. If it’s true, be their Father and teach them like you would teach them any other truth in life. It’s time to decide.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

but worries that our children will become social pariahs if they have no knowledge of Christianity


seems like an odd thing to worry about nowadays, even in the Deep South

but even if it is a thing to worry, it would seem it wouldn't be a worry till they are much older, and then they will likely have been exposed to religion in numerous ways to at least get by in society

FWIW, we have read my daughter, who is now 7, religious stories since she was a baby just like we would with any other fairy tale, so she is at least familiar with the stories
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:20 pm to
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She has no intent or desire to take them to church

I think this is a great question, and it sounds like you're a great parent who's trying to do the right thing for your kids.

IMO, it's hard for children to get the full breadth needed to make a decision without attending church.

Even if they (or you) are not terribly religious, many church youth programs can be fine if only for the social activities that you mention, and the exposure to such can allow them to make a better, informed decision about their involvement going forward.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Even if they (or you) are not terribly religious, many church youth programs can be fine if only for the social activities that you mention, and the exposure to such can allow them to make a better, informed decision about their involvement going forward.


this is also true

my daughter also goes to my parent's church for youth bible camp every summer for a week because she enjoys it

This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:24 pm to
Save a fortune at Christmas
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Save a fortune at Christmas



How?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:27 pm to
It sounds like you’re more concerned about what others think than what’s best for your children.

You can teach them about good vs evil, a greater being, a creator, etc without tying it to an actual religion.
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:31 pm to
whatever age you decide or they start seeking, it really is up to each parent to teach their child, and not just let them receive the information from any source without testing that information. Humans will always put their own perspective on things.

I think this is a good scripture as a basis or foundation of understanding for anyone.

Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.


Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Even if they (or you) are not terribly religious, many church youth programs can be fine if only for the social activities that you mention, and the exposure to such can allow them to make a better, informed decision about their involvement going forward.

I’m not against subtle exposure to anything reasonable. They play in YMCA leagues where they pray before games. Our nanny is a young religious girl, and she tells them about going to church on holidays, their customs, etc.

These benign exposures usually prompt questions where interest exists. And it had not yet appeared, so I question the method of exposure by way of media, but don’t necessarily see much harm.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

It sounds like you’re more concerned about what others think than what’s best for your children.



well if the OP lives in a smaller community I could see the concern

I don't think its very pervasive in more urban areas, but in more suburban or rural areas, not being a member of the church might get you labeled

Posted by Gaston
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:34 pm to
I’m doing what parents did, send my boy to Catholic school from K-12. He’s in an all boys 7-12th. If that doesn’t cure him from religion, nothing will.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

It sounds like you’re more concerned about what others think than what’s best for your children.

I’m not concerned with what anyone thinks about me relative to parenting and religion. If you read the post, I think you would agree with me. My kids will be just fine irrespective of religion.

I’m trying to give my spouse some decisional latitude, as religion is not even on my radar in life, and it clearly is on hers. I’m not seeking advice here, rather curious how others tangle with these topics.
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