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Firefox vs (new, updated) Microsoft Edge vs Google Chrome
Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:12 pm
Checked out the NEW recently updated Microsoft Edge browser in more detail today. Like Google Chrome, it is based on Chromium.
Like Firefox, it has web tracking blocking built-in with simple settings for the average user. That is enough right there to remove Google Chrome and use Edge. Most of the settings are straightforward, except they try to hide changing the default Search engine - at bottom of Privacy and Services.
Except for maybe some business needs and maybe some special needs that I can't think of at the moment, I do not know why somebody would use a Google browser when Edge gives what Google offers with built in privacy. Edge does not have the "noscript" extension that Firefox has available. But for most users, that would not matter. Firefox remains my top choice, but I am impressed with what I see in Microsoft Edge.
Like Firefox, it has web tracking blocking built-in with simple settings for the average user. That is enough right there to remove Google Chrome and use Edge. Most of the settings are straightforward, except they try to hide changing the default Search engine - at bottom of Privacy and Services.
Except for maybe some business needs and maybe some special needs that I can't think of at the moment, I do not know why somebody would use a Google browser when Edge gives what Google offers with built in privacy. Edge does not have the "noscript" extension that Firefox has available. But for most users, that would not matter. Firefox remains my top choice, but I am impressed with what I see in Microsoft Edge.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:40 pm
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:16 pm to BobLouder
New EDGE is great, made the switch from Chrome last night. Imported my theme manually and it's exactly the same as Chrome appearance wise. All my extensions came over and work too.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:22 pm to BobLouder
Why
MS not already have enough information on you as it is?
MS not already have enough information on you as it is?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:43 pm to awestruck
Have you looked at it? I assumed it was just more bs from Microsoft, but it is not. You need to look at it before judging it. It allows you to block their four MSN cookies on the opening page fron their settings (not via a third party add-in). It has pretty good privacy and blocking capability. You do not have to log into Microsoft to use the features.
Again, I use Firefox.
Again, I use Firefox.
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Why
MS not already have enough information on you as it is?
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:14 pm to BobLouder
I've been using Edge for months now. It's great.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:00 pm to BobLouder
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Except for maybe some business needs and maybe some special needs that I can't think of at the moment
Chome's debugger would probably fall into this category. It's the king by far. Never used the "noscript" feature, but I don't see how it would help, assuming the name is indicative of what it does, since most every website now relies heavily on some form of Javascipt. You would have to allow those sites, probably every site your go to, to run their scripts anyway. And, If you're concerned about "protecting your information", the larger sites you use daily are the ones collecting the most of it. The cookies thing isn't a huge "get" either as the web has largely moved onto better methods of tracking your activity that extends beyond you just visiting their website. That's why MS lets you block theirs, it doesn't matter to them either way.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:10 pm to Hulkklogan
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I've been using Edge for months now. It's great.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:35 pm to Fat Batman
I use NoScript, Ghostery and Privacy Badger and I can see who is tracking. You can block a lot with Noscript and still get almost full functionality on most sites. Noscript is built into the TorBrowser.
I would never use a "Google" Browser, unless I was developing and needed to test a site with it ... along with other browsers.
The only two ways I've seen to get a passing grade on tracking is the TorBrowser, and Firefox with NoScript (Ghostery and Privacy Badger). https://panopticlick.eff.org/
I would never use a "Google" Browser, unless I was developing and needed to test a site with it ... along with other browsers.
The only two ways I've seen to get a passing grade on tracking is the TorBrowser, and Firefox with NoScript (Ghostery and Privacy Badger). https://panopticlick.eff.org/
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Never used the "noscript" feature, but I don't see how it would help
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:36 pm to Hulkklogan
I was not impressed until they came out with the new version this month.
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I've been using Edge for months now. It's great.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:03 pm to BobLouder
Yeah I failed everything on my phone 
. What is your browsing experience like blocking all that stuff in the fingerprinting section? Surely you have to allow some level of local/session storage for authentication not to get messed up from page to page when signed into an account, or access to your device max resolution to get served the right rendering of a site, just to name a couple.
ETA: I'm very much pro Firefox/Edge as competition drives innovation and keeps everyone honest to a degree.
. What is your browsing experience like blocking all that stuff in the fingerprinting section? Surely you have to allow some level of local/session storage for authentication not to get messed up from page to page when signed into an account, or access to your device max resolution to get served the right rendering of a site, just to name a couple. ETA: I'm very much pro Firefox/Edge as competition drives innovation and keeps everyone honest to a degree.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:44 pm to Fat Batman
I get all check marks, including Fingerprinting. Past that it is above my pay grade. Using it you just experiment until you g"figure" out how little you allow. It is not perfect, but I feel good about blocking a lot of tracking crap. If I turn off Noscript, I do NOT pass the Fingerprinting. TorBrowser also passes with all checks.
... I just tried on my iPhone with Firefox and DisconnectMe set with block FingerPrinting in Default mode and it does not pass on Fingerprinting, passes the rest. With DisconnectMe in Aggressive mode, the browser won't make it to the site. They need to work on that. Fortunately, I do not browse much on my phone.
... I just tried on my iPhone with Firefox and DisconnectMe set with block FingerPrinting in Default mode and it does not pass on Fingerprinting, passes the rest. With DisconnectMe in Aggressive mode, the browser won't make it to the site. They need to work on that. Fortunately, I do not browse much on my phone.
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Yeah I failed everything on my phone . What is your browsing experience like blocking all that stuff in the fingerprinting section? Surely you have to allow some level of local/session storage for authentication not to get messed up from page to page when signed into an account, or access to your device max resolution to get served the right rendering of a site, just to name a couple.
ETA: I'm very much pro Firefox/Edge as competition drives innovation and keeps everyone honest to a degree.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:37 pm to BobLouder
I've been using Brave browser and its been great so far. It blocks all adds and removes ad trackers that sites use to track what other sites you go to.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:12 am to BobLouder
I switched to edge and haven’t looked back
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:52 am to BobLouder
IE was so bad for so long, many of us old dogs are going to still be gunshy (about any Microsoft browser).
I was a longtime Firefox user, but it drifted into unusable territory some years back and I switched to Chrome for almost everything. I just hate the learning curve of switching around/switching back - I still use Firefox for some things (like managing Plex libraries) and I occasionally use Edge for some sites, but I still rely heavily on Chrome. I've done everything I know to do to cripple Google's data mining (which I know isn't very effective).
I was a longtime Firefox user, but it drifted into unusable territory some years back and I switched to Chrome for almost everything. I just hate the learning curve of switching around/switching back - I still use Firefox for some things (like managing Plex libraries) and I occasionally use Edge for some sites, but I still rely heavily on Chrome. I've done everything I know to do to cripple Google's data mining (which I know isn't very effective).
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 7:53 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:05 pm to BobLouder
I've got security add ons and a VPN but it comes down to this for me: Firefox MIGHT be syping on me, but Google and M$ damn sure are so piss on them.
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