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re: Theory on chokehold bans
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:37 am to olemc999
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:37 am to olemc999
I've been a cop for almost 23 years. We have a rigorous defensive tactics training program. Not one time have we ever been taught any kind of choke hold. I know how to frick up shoulders bad enough to give you John McCain Arm though.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:41 am to Tantal
Yes, but it seems that in some situations, a choke hold may be appropriate or necessary.
Was listening to the radio the other day and a former law enforcement officer told a story about him attempting to arrest a mentally ill guy that was going berserk. The cop was struggling with the guy and the guy put his hand in his pocket, and another cop from behind put him in a chokehold and the guy was unconscious in seconds. They cuffed him and checked the pocket that he was reaching into and found a fairly large knife in it. “A chokehold probably saved my life that day,” said the cop.
Was listening to the radio the other day and a former law enforcement officer told a story about him attempting to arrest a mentally ill guy that was going berserk. The cop was struggling with the guy and the guy put his hand in his pocket, and another cop from behind put him in a chokehold and the guy was unconscious in seconds. They cuffed him and checked the pocket that he was reaching into and found a fairly large knife in it. “A chokehold probably saved my life that day,” said the cop.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:45 am to Tantal
Well I have a question that I am ignorant on. How come tasers and pepper spray are not used more? Lawsuits or something?
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:05 pm to Tantal
In the Eric Garner case, the officer had let go with the choke hold, it was the knee in the back that really did him in,
The same with the Tony Timpa case in Dallas, knee in the back while pinning him down, dead.
Probably the same in the Floyd case, more likely the weight of the 2nd cop in Floyd's back, not Chauvin's knee.
The same with the Tony Timpa case in Dallas, knee in the back while pinning him down, dead.
Probably the same in the Floyd case, more likely the weight of the 2nd cop in Floyd's back, not Chauvin's knee.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:08 pm to Tantal
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Not one time have we ever been taught any kind of choke hold
What exactly is the rationale behind this? A perp can fight through a severely fricked up joint, especially if they’re high or drunk, but they can’t fight through being choked out.
Teaching y’all guillotines and RNC’s would be safer for all parties involved and probably save a life for two each year by ending the fight immediately instead of putting y’all in a position of “ok I just shredded this guy’s shoulder with an Americana (or paint brush or whatever y’all call it) but he’s still fighting and trying to grab my gun, what now?”
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:23 pm to Tantal
Thanks for your service, muck respect.
I do have a question though - whether you are taught that or not, when it comes down to a life or death struggle, do you really want any tool in the arsenal banned?
If it is banned, then they will claim any use of a "choke hold" is excessive per se.
I am no Sean Hannity, butI have rolled enough to know that sometimes a choke or a crank is what prevents itself.
And yeah, a crank is gonna be called a choke once chokes are deemed evil.
I do have a question though - whether you are taught that or not, when it comes down to a life or death struggle, do you really want any tool in the arsenal banned?
If it is banned, then they will claim any use of a "choke hold" is excessive per se.
I am no Sean Hannity, butI have rolled enough to know that sometimes a choke or a crank is what prevents itself.
And yeah, a crank is gonna be called a choke once chokes are deemed evil.
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