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re: A Peaceful Breakup
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:40 pm to troyt37
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:40 pm to troyt37
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No. If the anti-American socialist democrats want one inch of the United States, let them pay for it in blood.
What are you going to do when they outnumber us? US birthrate declines but immigration grows. They'll just wrap their selves in our laws and change everything from the inside then the entire population is screwed. A collection of States choosing to leave maybe the best option before everything is lost.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:48 pm to LB84
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What are you going to do when they outnumber us? US birthrate declines but immigration grows. They'll just wrap their selves in our laws and change everything from the inside then the entire population is screwed. A collection of States choosing to leave maybe the best option before everything is lost.
As if everything isn't lost when we have our coasts as open border communist states? These people aren't Americans. They are Marxist socialists first. American isn't even on the first page for descriptors for them. There is absolutely no reason to allow them to have one inch of this country, they are intent to destroy. I say we drive them out, or make them Americans. No sense having proxies for Red China and European socialists on our coasts.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:49 pm to Bama2018
The US is not as divided as the media and social media would have you believe. Yes we have our issues but in reality they are small. What you see on TV and on social media are the extremes.
Turn off your TV. Get of social media like Facebook, Twitter, tigerdroppings, etc. Go outside and talk to your neighbors or maybe a stranger. You’ll learn most people just want to live their lives with as little interruption as possible.
Turn off your TV. Get of social media like Facebook, Twitter, tigerdroppings, etc. Go outside and talk to your neighbors or maybe a stranger. You’ll learn most people just want to live their lives with as little interruption as possible.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:03 pm to JOJO Hammer
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The US is not as divided as the media and social media would have you believe. Yes we have our issues but in reality they are small. What you see on TV and on social media are the extremes.
Turn off your TV. Get of social media like Facebook, Twitter, tigerdroppings, etc. Go outside and talk to your neighbors or maybe a stranger. You’ll learn most people just want to live their lives with as little interruption as possible.
That sounds all nice and kumbaya, but businesses and livelihoods are being destroyed as we speak, and there will be more tonight. We are being attacked by people who want to destroy this country, and re-make it in the European socialist mode, at best.
We aren't talking about people who disagree how best to manage and run the greatest country in the history of mankind. We are well beyond simple disagreements between Republicans and Democrats, both holding similar views about American exceptionalism, and a foundational belief in this country's founding principles and documents. One side of this equation believes in none of that, and in fact believes those are the very things that are wrong in this country, and must be destroyed, along with the people who hold those views.
These are just the initial skirmishes in the coming war. We knew this was building, knew it was being allowed to build. It's coming folks, it's just a matter of time. There is no negotiating with the people doing this. And please notice, we don't have socialist democrats out excoriating these violent leftists. They are sitting back with a smile trying to figure out if this is going to be enough turmoil to sweep them back into power.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:06 pm to Bama2018
The Balkans have been at war with themselves for over a thousand years so, no thank you. However, this country is full of shitty non-contributors today so it may get there.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:12 pm to Bama2018
We don’t need to break up the country. I don’t think that is going to happen. How about we do the hard work of living up to our nation’s founding ideals of equality? How about we address systemic bias and prejudice? Let’s not give up. Many generations in this country have faced challenges and Persevered.
Race has been one of the biggest challenges to our founding ideals. That hasn’t changed. Let’s face it head on and make progress.
Race has been one of the biggest challenges to our founding ideals. That hasn’t changed. Let’s face it head on and make progress.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:23 pm to aujhw1
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How about we do the hard work of living up to our nation’s founding ideals of equality? How about we address systemic bias and prejudice?
Give me your top 5 instances where this country isn't living up to it's founding ideals of equality. We can work on them together.
Just know, if you want to start by addressing the black people killed by the police, I'm going to want to discuss the white people killed by the police. If you want to talk about the black people killed by white people, I'm going to want to talk about the white people killed by black people.
And at some point, I'm going to want to have an in depth discussion about the value of all life, and how it is that so many black people, whom apparently want more than anything for us all to know that black lives matter, are the very ones going around and killing other black people at a sickening, tragic rate.
Let's go. Let's face this head on and make progress. You have the floor.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:25 pm to tigeraddict
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that's what China, Russia, EU would like to see
Balkanization is looking more and more like the answer
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:58 pm to troyt37
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Give me your top 5 instances where this country isn't living up to it's founding ideals of equality. We can work on them together.
Just know, if you want to start by addressing the black people killed by the police, I'm going to want to discuss the white people killed by the police. If you want to talk about the black people killed by white people, I'm going to want to talk about the white people killed by black people.
And at some point, I'm going to want to have an in depth discussion about the value of all life, and how it is that so many black people, whom apparently want more than anything for us all to know that black lives matter, are the very ones going around and killing other black people at a sickening, tragic rate.
Let's go. Let's face this head on and make progress. You have the floor.
I’m talking about issues that happen because someone is black. That is the issue. You have a racial minority that had often faced discrimination and prejudice because of race/skin color. That context makes what we are talking about different than what you are talking about.
I will give you a couple of examples. They studied traffic stops in North Carolina over several years. Being black made you significantly more likely to be stopped and made it significantly more likely your car would be searched. At the same time whites were more likely to be found with contraband.
The US Sentencing commission has studied the issue and said controlling for variables that being a black man means you are likely to get a longer sentence. Those are examples of the kind of bias and prejudice that exists in this country.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:09 pm to Bama2018
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We would of course have trade agreements among ourselves and a common defense policy against foreign agitators like China but I believe this would be much more unifying then our current system.
Idiot. That IS our current system. Or at least what it was supposed to be. FedGov ruined that, but it is far better than the alternative. Want to be irrelevant and have China's interests dominate the globe without interference or opposition? Break up the US.
A bunch of different countries are immeasurably weaker than a single united one.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:11 pm to Smokeyone
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Balkanization is looking more and more like the answer
It isnt an answer, nor an option. There is no realistic or feasible way to divide the country to begin with.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:17 pm to aujhw1
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I’m talking about issues that happen because someone is black. That is the issue. You have a racial minority that had often faced discrimination and prejudice because of race/skin color.
Which is now highly illegal. If it can be proven.
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That context makes what we are talking about different than what you are talking about.
Nope, same issue. You have people claiming systemic racism, and micro aggressions, off in the ether somewhere. If it can't be quantified, it can't be fixed.
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I will give you a couple of examples. They studied traffic stops in North Carolina over several years. Being black made you significantly more likely to be stopped and made it significantly more likely your car would be searched. At the same time whites were more likely to be found with contraband.
Can't possibly be that blacks commit a higher percentage of traffic violations, and therefore are stopped at a higher percentage? I mean, are we just to ignore that roughly 7% of the population commits something like 75% of the murders in this country? If it is true for murder, it can't possibly be true for traffic violations that get them stopped in the first place?
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The US Sentencing commission has studied the issue and said controlling for variables that being a black man means you are likely to get a longer sentence. Those are examples of the kind of bias and prejudice that exists in this country.
Controlling for variables like the fact that black men commit the overwhelming majority of murders in this country? Can you control for that? Is it bias or prejudice that makes the most heinous crimes come with the longest sentences? Do white murderers receive less time than black murderers?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:22 pm to Indefatigable
One problem with that is this: it really cannot be done by state as most states are divided. Louisiana may be 55% Trump Country but East Baton Rouge, Jefferson, Orleans, and Caddo parishes are NOT Trump Country.
The divide in this country is between metropolitan and educated areas versus Rural, small town, and exurban areas. Dividing us would be extremely hard if not impossible.
The divide in this country is between metropolitan and educated areas versus Rural, small town, and exurban areas. Dividing us would be extremely hard if not impossible.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:38 pm to Bama2018
Why not break up into 50 states each with their own government and limit federal power?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:46 pm to LB84
The immigrant usual suspects only vote blue because it serves their purposes. Once they have a majority things will turn more conservative than you could ever be.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:49 pm to Bama2018
No, just no.
A more perfect Union would include a strong conservative and rational majority, nationwide.
To concede to anything else is merely a sign of weakness and fear, two distinctly in-American attributes...
A more perfect Union would include a strong conservative and rational majority, nationwide.
To concede to anything else is merely a sign of weakness and fear, two distinctly in-American attributes...
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:50 pm to tigeraddict
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that's what China, Russia, EU would like to see
This country is an abortion of what it was supposed to be. Do you honestly believe if this country was split into 3 or 4 separate nations, that China or Russia would conquer any of them? The biggest threat to freedom in this country is in Washington DC. It's time this country divorced.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:53 pm to Indefatigable
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There is no realistic or feasible way to divide the country to begin with.
Lol. This isn't true at all
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:09 pm to SCLibertarian
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Do you honestly believe if this country was split into 3 or 4 separate nations, that China or Russia would conquer any of them?
No, but the “liberal” countries could ally with China and cause problems for the “conservative” countries.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:10 pm to Wally Sparks
They're already doing that tbh.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 5:10 pm
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