- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Score Board
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- SEC Score Board
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
CV information I did not know
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:42 pm
I spoke with my BIL a couple of nights ago - he is an attorney who works for a medical related firm and stays up on all of the latest research. He gets frustrated with all of the disinformation that circulates.
Several of things he told me stood out in our conversation. One is that people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease. The myth that there are millions of asymptomatic people walking around spreading this is not true. I know I thought it strange that places of business have policies of taking people's temperature as they enter the building. I thought that would not work because it would not catch asymptomatic employees before they have spread it. Apparently, it works, and the asymptomatic employees are not highly contagious.
Secondly, the virus is not mutating as quickly as they thought, initially.
Finally, there have been numerous studies on closed environments such as nursing homes, cruise ships, aircraft carriers, etc, that have shown that the virus peaks at about 20-25% infection rate. I'm not sure they know why - but it seems that many people have a natural immunity to it. Whether it is DNA or antibodies already in their system.
Just thought I would share what he knows.
Several of things he told me stood out in our conversation. One is that people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease. The myth that there are millions of asymptomatic people walking around spreading this is not true. I know I thought it strange that places of business have policies of taking people's temperature as they enter the building. I thought that would not work because it would not catch asymptomatic employees before they have spread it. Apparently, it works, and the asymptomatic employees are not highly contagious.
Secondly, the virus is not mutating as quickly as they thought, initially.
Finally, there have been numerous studies on closed environments such as nursing homes, cruise ships, aircraft carriers, etc, that have shown that the virus peaks at about 20-25% infection rate. I'm not sure they know why - but it seems that many people have a natural immunity to it. Whether it is DNA or antibodies already in their system.
Just thought I would share what he knows.
14
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:58 pm to Jax-Tiger
anecdotal.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:59 pm to Jax-Tiger
Not saying your BIL is wrong but Google “Can asymptomatic people spread Covid” and the entire first page from health resources disagree with that statement.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:00 pm to Jax-Tiger
Need multiple 10+ year studies to confirm.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:03 pm to Jax-Tiger
How do we know this isn't just more disinformation? I believe viral load plays a big role in how sick you get with it but not sure if I go along with a low viral load means you can't pass it on to someone else.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:04 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
One is that people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease
I'm certain that this is either untrue, or simply not settled.
I've heard many things about viral load. One, I've heard that someone who is asymptomatic (due to viral load) is the person you want to get it from because it means you will likely have a smaller response.
Likewise, I've heard that places with high viral loads beget lots of severe cases.
Obviously, much of our guidance that we are working under is based on the premise that asymptomatic people can transmit the disease.
quote:
Finally, there have been numerous studies on closed environments such as nursing homes, cruise ships, aircraft carriers, etc, that have shown that the virus peaks at about 20-25% infection rate. I'm not sure they know why - but it seems that many people have a natural immunity to it. Whether it is DNA or antibodies already in their system.
very interesting
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:07 pm to TakeThat
quote:
Not saying your BIL is wrong but Google “Can asymptomatic people spread Covid” and the entire first page from health resources disagree with that statement.
Lol.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:09 pm to TakeThat
quote:
Not saying your BIL is wrong but Google “Can asymptomatic people spread Covid” and the entire first page from health resources disagree with that statement.
How recent is the information? He has access to data and research which has not been released, as well. So this may be new research. It could be subject to change, too. IDK...
I'm not going to fall on a sword for my BIL, either.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:13 pm to TakeThat
quote:
Google literally anything and the entire first page will be liberal propaganda
Fixed
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:10 pm to Jax-Tiger
I've read that some health officials are referring to asymptomatic as one who tests positive but never gets any symptoms, and possibly would not be a transmission agent. The term for those who are shedding prior to experiencing symptoms would be pre-symptomatic.
Tracing studies would give us clues about those that ultimately experience symptoms. But we would never know about the former. Unless they were part of a larger group identified as high risk.
This was some time ago and I'm surprised there hasn't been any buzz about the distinction, which IMO is critical.
Tracing studies would give us clues about those that ultimately experience symptoms. But we would never know about the former. Unless they were part of a larger group identified as high risk.
This was some time ago and I'm surprised there hasn't been any buzz about the distinction, which IMO is critical.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:15 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:I don't know if this is true or not, but in general, I've been frustrated at just how little viral load has been discussed. There's a world of difference between working in an ER triage unit with dozens of the infected coughing on you and brushing past someone while outdoors.
One is that people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease.
Best article I've seen on it
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
asymptomatic employees are not highly contagious.
from zero to 100 is a long slope.
some more than others.
2nd. your 25% nursing home rate is false.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:23 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
How recent is the information? He has access to data and research which has not been released, as well. So this may be new research. It could be subject to change, too. IDK...
I'm not going to fall on a sword for my BIL, either.
My guess is that he's reading studies that support that hypothesis, but it isn't settled by any means.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:28 pm to TakeThat
quote:
Not saying your BIL is wrong but Google “Can asymptomatic people spread Covid” and the entire first page from health resources disagree with that statement
Politically and financially motivated health resources -
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:31 pm to TakeThat
quote:
Not saying your BIL is wrong but Google “Can asymptomatic people spread Covid” and the entire first page from health resources disagree with that statement.
This article shows the NIH agrees with the OP's BIL.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:36 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:You should avoid getting medical information from an attorney, and avoid getting legal advice from a doctor. Just a suggestion.
I spoke with my BIL a couple of nights ago - he is an attorney
quote:Sorry. That is complete BS.
people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease
quote:We've never thought CV19 was highly mutagenic. (That's a good thing btw)
the virus is not mutating as quickly as they thought, initially.
quote:Negative.
the virus peaks at about 20-25% infection rate
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:58 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
I'm not sure they know why - but it seems that many people have a natural immunity to it. Whether it is DNA or antibodies already in their system.
Been curious about that from the beginning. Now a couple of studies have indicated that having had an infection of one of the mild coronaviruses imparts some immunity.
No big surprise, but nice to know.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:58 pm to SlackMaster
quote:Did you skip over the title of the article?
quote:
people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't have the viral load to transmit the disease
quote:
Sorry. That is complete BS.
The NIH disagrees that it is BS. Science.
quote:
New NIH Study: Transmissibility of COVID-19 by Asymptomatic Carriers Is Weak
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News