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Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:44 am to KemoSabe65
I just came here to let people know things are starting to look up.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:49 am to welder69
Damn man was really on your side till this
quote:How about get off your arse and help them get it fit up. And this is coming from a 20 year veteran of pipe trades and a highly sought after welder.
sit on my arse for 10 hours waiting on fitters to make up my pipe to weld
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:00 am to skullhawk
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Somewhere along the way these professions were deemed inferior by our education system. There is constant demand for these fields and the earning potential is excellent but we’ve been conditioned to believe that some going nowhere cubical job making $50k per is better than working a trade.
I'm not sure why, either. Tradesman have excellent wages, benefits, and in some cases, retirement packages. They get to see a project from start to finish and see an end result.
But I am not sure where this narrative got started that just anyone can do this. It really depends on the market for that trade. For instance, not just any dummy can get into the IBEW in a large area. There are many competitors for those seats, and if you have a bad test, or you frick up the interview, you're chances get slimmer. In some cases you can ace the interview, have a great test score, and still be put behind some people who just know the right person. And then if you do get in, some of them ask you to stay with that local for 5 years AFTER your apprenticeship. a decade commitment is a tough thing for anyone agree to, much less a 20 year old whose brain hasn't fully developed.
It's a great thing to get into, but I don't blame anyone for doing what they want. I blame school administrations for pushing college so hard.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:33 am to welder69
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48 hrly and 130 a day
By no means am I being critical, but does this math make sense? Don’t get me wrong. I went to college, got my degree and am working on my masters now (more or less for fun). But my kids will be attending a science and vocational-based magnet school for high school and there’s a good reason for that. Trades are a good thing, for sure, and I want them to have more options than I did.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:36 am to S1C EM
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By no means am I being critical, but does this math make sense?
Yes. He makes $130 a day whether he works or not. This accounts for rainouts. On days that he does work, he earns $130 plus $48 an hour.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:39 am to soccerfüt
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We don’t care to hear about the 69 thing opening up.
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soccer
We know. You only get off to make on male 69.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:39 am to Rouge
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Yes. He makes $130 a day whether he works or not. This accounts for rainouts. On days that he does work, he earns $130 plus $48 an hour.
Gotcha. That makes more sense. Not a bad gig, for sure. Not what I would want to do, but if one of my kids is interested, I’ll fully support it.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:39 am to Rouge
48 hrly 130 a day perdeim
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:40 am to S1C EM
The 130 a day is per diem. And the five year thing after their apprenticeship in the previous post means they just can't transfer to another local till after 5 years. They can work out any local they want but can't transfer if that makes sense. The local he serves his apprenticeship out of has a lot of money invested in his education so they try to keep them around to get some investment back.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:53 am to angus1838
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The 130 a day is per diem. And the five year thing after their apprenticeship in the previous post means they just can't transfer to another local till after 5 years. They can work out any local they want but can't transfer if that makes sense. The local he serves his apprenticeship out of has a lot of money invested in his education so they try to keep them around to get some investment back.
Yep, makes total sense now. And that’s not a terrible commitment really. Can’t blame them for that requirement, either.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:20 am to welder69
Damn son!!!!!
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:22 am to welder69
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welder69
My daughter (rising HS junior) is starting to develop some interest in welding. Any tips?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:30 am to StupidBinder
Go to a GOOD trade school and learn PIPE not just structure welding. Idk were you are from, but I can tell you Sowela is very very strict with the welding program, not just anyone is gonna float by.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:32 am to BigPerm30
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Kids need to understand that welding, electrical, plumbing is a hell of a career.
It is but the bigger picture here is noone knows how to do anything mechanical anymore unless you do it for a living.
Boomers have their flaws, but at least most of them had come mechanical inclination, even if they had a desk job. That isn't the case anymore.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:53 am to welder69
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Go to a GOOD trade school and learn PIPE not just structure welding.
I’ll second this. And the money that 69 is talking about making is not uncommon for a skilled hand that doesn’t mind doing some traveling and can nearly double for someone that puts their time in and then gets into inspection.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:05 pm to welder69
LPSS actually has a pretty good program for high school students exploring trades, there's just not a lot of participation. The kids who would benefit the most from it see it as too much work or a hassle according to my friends who work in the school system.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:12 pm to tigNstick629
I'm 33 and work in a Wal-Mart distribution center for 12 years. My job pays decent but it is very repetitive and you don't know when you are shown the door because production goals are ridiculous. I would like to learn something and be productive at a skill.
My question is what trades are in the most need? I'm not real picky and willing to learn something new. Any suggestions?
My question is what trades are in the most need? I'm not real picky and willing to learn something new. Any suggestions?
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:19 pm to welder69
I make more with my two year degree from Sowela than I ever would with my bachelors.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:23 pm to dchog
I would say the usuals that you see posted here: welding, electrician, hvac. NDT would be another to look at.
I would definitely pick something that interests you because they can all involve some hard work and if you aren’t into that particular trade you won’t have the dedication it takes to distinguish yourself/business.
Also for anyone interested in a good job in the trades,network,network,network. MOST(not all) of the good high paying jobs are not advertised.
I would definitely pick something that interests you because they can all involve some hard work and if you aren’t into that particular trade you won’t have the dedication it takes to distinguish yourself/business.
Also for anyone interested in a good job in the trades,network,network,network. MOST(not all) of the good high paying jobs are not advertised.
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