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re: Ensminger Jr. filing lawsuit for Carley McCord’s death
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:54 am to Jake88
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:54 am to Jake88
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And? Are there no reasons for a plane to crash besides negligence? Pilot has a stroke? Sudden shearing winds?
PanAm Flight 759 crashed into a Kenner neighborhood due to wind shear.
Everyone on the plane died and also many on the ground.
You think no one sued in that plane crash?
What's your point?
PanAm ain't dere no mo'.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:55 am to boogedy
I can tell you that fee shifting provisions in a lot of litigation areas/contracts definitely give people pause before filing a suit. They work.
It also doesn't fix the issue because you can easily have someone who is judgment proof (no money) ripping lawsuits because it doesn't matter if they lose.
It also doesn't fix the issue because you can easily have someone who is judgment proof (no money) ripping lawsuits because it doesn't matter if they lose.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
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The part that keeps the airplane running is likely only a few years old, though.
True. We always said the total time on an aircraft is what is accumulated on the airframe data tag, not it's subcomponents which, in a many cases are tracked separately.
The Allison/Rolls Royce 250C series turboshaft engines are modular and every module can be replaced individually. Thus the master data plate is the only item permanently recorded (attached) to the engine assembly logbook.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:03 pm to SOLA
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I went to the post on on Feu Follet on Thursday and thought about the crash. When I came out, I saw 2 different groups of people walking through that field, looking like they were looking for something.
It could be investigator types looking for evidence from the crash, from NTSB or insurance company or whatever.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:11 pm to Elleshoe
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What’s funny? Wrecks are caused by someone operating their vehicle negligently or not paying attention to signage and laws or those around them.
Wrecks can also be a result of a defect in the vehicle itself or a tire.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:22 pm to Red Stick Tigress
I can find a “fault” for nearly every death that occurs
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:24 pm to tigerskin
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I can find a “fault” for nearly every death that occurs
Non sequitur to the conversation within the conversation.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:45 pm to LSUGrrrl
Automated weather observing systems measure two important elements. Visibility and Sky ceilings.
1. Visibility is defined as the greatest distance an observer can see through at least half of the 360 degree circle. 180 degrees does not have to be continuous. You can offer sector visibility than differs from prevailing visibility. For, example, 10SM visibility with vis W-NW 2.
B. The automated weather sensor near the time of this noted ACFT MSHP reported 1/4SM. The actual visibility may or may not been lower than 1/4SM. But that is the lowest reporting value for AWOS. Any control tower personnel did not augment this sensor and probably doesn’t need to do so per directives.
Vertical Visibility is an indefinite ceiling and is usually an estimation of how upward you can see within the Fog layer. The automated system showed VV002 which means the machine indicated 200 feet as the greatest distance it can detect in the Fog.
However, ASOS or AWOS reports values to the nearest 100 feet. The actual VV could have been 150 feet or maybe 230 feet. It is not determined to the nearest foot eg 146 feet.
Conclusion: actual visibility may have been lower than 1/4 mile and VV May have been as low as 150 feet or perhaps lower.
1. Visibility is defined as the greatest distance an observer can see through at least half of the 360 degree circle. 180 degrees does not have to be continuous. You can offer sector visibility than differs from prevailing visibility. For, example, 10SM visibility with vis W-NW 2.
B. The automated weather sensor near the time of this noted ACFT MSHP reported 1/4SM. The actual visibility may or may not been lower than 1/4SM. But that is the lowest reporting value for AWOS. Any control tower personnel did not augment this sensor and probably doesn’t need to do so per directives.
Vertical Visibility is an indefinite ceiling and is usually an estimation of how upward you can see within the Fog layer. The automated system showed VV002 which means the machine indicated 200 feet as the greatest distance it can detect in the Fog.
However, ASOS or AWOS reports values to the nearest 100 feet. The actual VV could have been 150 feet or maybe 230 feet. It is not determined to the nearest foot eg 146 feet.
Conclusion: actual visibility may have been lower than 1/4 mile and VV May have been as low as 150 feet or perhaps lower.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:08 pm to Tiger Ryno
It's not about bringing her back. It's about holding people accountable for their negligence. Money is sometimes the only thing that people notice enough to change their behavior.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:16 pm to Cymry Teigr
quote:Hundreds of thousands do every day. You travel on I-10 right? The overpasses and bridges you ride on are over 40 years old.
Cross a bridge 4 decades old?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:16 pm to tigerskin
Give it a rest, Blowhard
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:24 pm to MLU
quote:It's 100% about this, and this:
It's not about bringing her back.
quote:is just one huge giant mask for that. Don't fool yourself, it's a stage of grief. It's the anger stage. "I'm gonna make them pay for this!" Yes, it's expected in the stages of grief, but you don't have to actually follow through with every thought. Suing the Vincents is going to do jack fricking shite about what happened. Like I said, one of them (Chris) lost his wife and his son in the exact same plane crash. You think it's cool to hit him with a lawsuit when he's trying to pick up the pieces emotionally? Come on man.
holding people accountable for their negligence.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:25 pm to tigerskin
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We all suffer mental anguish and suffering when somebody dies
So what's your point? And why is it anyone's business what he does after the death of his wife?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:29 pm to Tuscaloosa
Correct..and it used to be w/ a 100 hour inspection. In my many years of involvement w/ small private aircraft, the majority of crashes were due to pilot error...the most notable exception being the death of Bo Rein.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:54 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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There's likely a 1 year statute of limitations on filing a lawsuit, so they might as well file and get it over with.
Agree with the lawsuit but the language in it was just a little much. Carley’s family and husband deserve closure and insurance payouts. I also hope the report comes out ASAP for the sake of preventing future accidents like this.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:44 pm to dukke v
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Still..... it’s a 40 year old plane...
Age is the least useful indicator of a airplanes likely reliability. Would you rather fly on a 15 year old plane with engines that have 2000 hours of run time, and 17,000 take off/landing/pressurization cycles, or a 40 year old plane with 200 hours tnew engines, and only 7000 takeoff/landing/pressurization cycles on the airframe.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:54 pm to tigerbait3488
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filing a lawsuit is not the way to go. She willingly got on that plane and it unfortunately went down.
Don't so quick to judge. I am no lawyer and I didn't stay at a holiday inn express last night. But this may just be part of the process. Her life insurance my be fighting to pay off on her policy and this is just a step he has been advised to take.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:55 pm to tigerskin
I think we can safely assume that he had no input into what language his attorney (and any other attorney who filed such a suit) used to describe a wrongful death claim. But, hey, you're probably a lot smarter than everyone and think you know better.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:56 pm to tigerskin
100% pilot error. Overloaded plane taking off in bad weather
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:21 pm to tigerbait3488
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I feel for this man, but filing a lawsuit is not the way to go. She willingly got on that plane and it unfortunately went down.
Of all the posts I've ever seen on this site, yours may well be in the Top 10 of the dumbest. With the "logic" that you are using, any passengers on any plane or vehicle who "willingly" boards has no basis for complaining when they are injured through no fault of their own in an accident.
Here's something you missed, which is not surprising given the evidence of your thinking ability: she "willingly" got on a plane with the "good faith belief" that the pilot was competent to fly it and/or that the plane was properly airworthy. She would not have "willingly" gotten on the plane, otherwise.
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