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Miss. River Water Level Questions

Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:54 am
Guys in all seriousness! Why does the Army Corps of Engineers allow the Mississippi River to stay at this height for so long? The amount of Habitat and hunting areas this high levels of water damages is crazy. As well as farming. What are the true politics behind keeping the water level this high?

Everything is backed up and flooded. Went over the Tensas, never seen it this high for so long. Then went over the Miss River in Natchez,,, unreal how high for so long?

Why do they allow this and then open the Bonnet Carrie to dump all the fresh water into Lake Ponchatrain?

Is it really because of all the High Dollar Hunting clubs in the Spillway area?

Any logical reasoning to keep it this high?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:56 am to
oyster fishermen
Posted by TunaTime
LA
Member since Aug 2012
776 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:59 am to
Lucky for you its falling pretty good right now.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
26265 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:02 am to
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the lock structures are to relieve pressure on levees south of the lock structures. There are no controls to “lower” the river levels north of locks
Posted by bayouself74
Red Stick
Member since Aug 2016
72 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:11 am to
The corps has flow rate levels that trigger openings of the lock system in stages. Those other issues you mentioned earlier don’t factor into it on the surface (but are discussed at a higher leVel than you or I). With all that being said I was in Concordia this past week and I can tell you the length of time that the river has stayed well above flood stage for the past 4-5 years is really taking a toll on the levee system. There are levee washouts in numerous places including one near the Morganza spillway. Thankfully the levee is really wide in that location. I know they are really concerned about uplift on the land side of the levees as well. The Corps is going to have its work cut out for it when the water goes down to get all the repairs in before next years high water.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:19 am
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14974 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:46 am to
The Corps ordered up another wet spring. The Corps gets what the Corps wants. Will Morris Bart file a lawsuit against Mother Nature? God? Trump?
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3863 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:01 pm to
The system is designed to protect the large cities. They don’t open anything unless there’s a downriver threat to a large city. As soon as the threat passes, due to water levels decreasing, they close up the structure.

The entire System Is one of the best return on investments the government has ever designed. It’s certainly been tested in recent years, but it’ still works even after all these years.
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1815 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:52 pm to
US COE has no control over how much water comes down the Mississippi.

The levees they built to protect populated areas from flooding keep the river in its channel and allow higher water level. If there were no levees the river would be spilled over its natural banks and covering half of southern LA right now. The levees and rising river bed elevation do allow the river height to build up quite high, as designed.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:03 pm to
Guessing you slept through spring last year it was a lot worse for longer.
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2320 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 5:52 am to
I don’t think they are doing it on purpose they have guidelines to follow. I was told the river is so silted in that the flow rate would never be reached to trigger the opening of some of the spillways. The river is staying high due to it not being dredged like it use to be. I was told that in 2008 Obama cut funding for dredging the river. They said there use to be three dredge boats in the river in New Orleans and now there’s just one, not sure if that is true. They are supposed to start a dredging project from the mouth to Baton Rouge. Here’s a few links about it. Dredging Today and NOLA.com
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16615 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 6:41 am to
Because not ruining oyster beds and saltwater fishing is more important than some hunting land.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27502 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Any logical reasoning to keep it this high?


Uh, because the river has flooded nearly every year for thousands of years and it's just part of the water cycle.
Posted by Me Bite
A.K.A. - Bite Me
Member since Oct 2007
7149 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:58 pm to
I just wished they would alternate spillways instead of always opening up the Bonnet Carre. It's time to dump fresh water on the West side via the Morganza, instead of always sending it into the Lake Pontchartrain Basin.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2374 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:03 am to
Article has some sensationalized material but never knew it was Einstein's son who was responsible for leading the design charge up at Morganza.

Albert Einstein's Son Tames the Mississippi
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