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re: Ensminger called “bullshite” on those that said he wouldn’t get it done
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:01 pm to s2
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:01 pm to s2
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since we are being so prophetic; it's 2020 and LSU goes 15-0 with back to back Natty.
who gets the credit on offense, Coach Ensminger or the new guy?
are you going to claim Brady philosophy prevails?
Brady's presence here was instrumental in pulling us kicking and screaming out of the McClendon through Miles doldrums.
Nothing that is done with the offense this year will represent anywhere near such a significant change in offensive strategy.
All we'll need this year is execution to complement what's already in place.
What wouldn't have been in place without the arrival of Brady.
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Brennan was undersized. This is common knowledge, sorry you missed the memo bud
What does that have to do with him completing under 50% of his passes in the spring And looking like shite while in a no contact jersey.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:11 pm to NoGeaux
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any bunch formation, any motion out of 1 back to
0 back sets.
Its common knowledge that both of these things came from Brady.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
That’s everyone’s point.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:18 pm to SammyTiger
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That’s everyone’s point.
2019 wasnt all bunch formations and 5 receiver sets though.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
So you’re saying that’s all he brought?
Because he also brought the option routes.
He is the one who moves us away from using more blockers to deal with pass rush and instead started sending 4-5 passing options instead.
If you could watch the games you could see the obvious difference not just in execution but scheme
Because he also brought the option routes.
He is the one who moves us away from using more blockers to deal with pass rush and instead started sending 4-5 passing options instead.
If you could watch the games you could see the obvious difference not just in execution but scheme
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:47 pm to SammyTiger
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He is the one who moves us away from using more blockers to deal with pass rush and instead started sending 4-5 passing options instead.
Orgeron and Ensminger both said in 2018 that they wanted to send out more receivers but they felt the offensive line was too inexperienced to deal with blitzes.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:51 pm to rob62
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Nobody said Ensminger is/was the creator of LSU's offense
TONS of people say that. They insist that Brady just "made a few suggestions" and that Brady was too inexperienced to run an offense. Despite all evidence to the contrary. And now he's an NFL offensive coordinator. So what do I know, right?
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He does call the plays and works with the passing game coordinator. This has been well publicized and discussed many times on TV during every LSU game.
And yet, before Brady got here, nothing changed. Then, Brady comes, and suddenly we have the best offense in college football HISTORY, and people like yourself think it was Ensminger behind it, and that Brady was just the helpful little servant. That's intellectually dishonest. Sorry. It just is.
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The bottom line is that Coach O hired all these coaches and it damn well worked yet some of you are still bitching after watching what was probably the best team of all time. Some LSU fans are chronic bitchers. It's funny and sad at the same damn time.
Who said Orgeron didn't make the hires? Did I? This discussion isn't even about him. And who is "**tching"? I had a blast this past season. Everyone did. My comment was a direct response to a topic that some of you have been shoving down our throats for months. It' an incorrect take, and it's meant as a "gotcha". "Oh, look, stupid LSU fans, guess you were wrong about Ensminger".
Except that man went on a tirade at his introductory press conference, and proceeded to trot out the most unimaginative offense, again. And when someone else came in and revamped everything, you want to pretend that we were wrong about Ensminger. It's a shameless attempt to discredit people. And THIS is how people like you have spent the offseason, instead of being happy with the championship. Doesn't that make you a hypocrite for criticizing others for not being "happy enough"?
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:07 pm to TigerLunatik
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They had to install an offense regardless.
Do you believe we could have ran this offense successfully with the OL, QB, and Receivers in 17 & 18?
Hell our defense couldn't stop Syracuse, Troy, and Ms State in 17. We certainly wouldn't want to score quickly or turn the ball over.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:13 pm to Metaloctopus
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And yet, before Brady got here, nothing changed. Then, Brady comes, and suddenly we have the best offense in college football HISTORY, and people like yourself think it was Ensminger behind it, and that Brady was just the helpful little servant. That's intellectually dishonest. Sorry. It just is.
Disappointingly, a level of clinical self-serving reasoning that one would hope is rare among the populace.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:13 pm to Metaloctopus
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And now he's an NFL offensive coordinator.
This proves what exactly?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:14 pm to Gus007
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Do you believe we could have ran this offense successfully with the OL, QB, and Receivers in 17 & 18?
If Towsen and Eastern Michigan can come into Tiger Stadium and run it, I think LSU can too. We had the same guys on offense in '18 as we did '19 outside of Moss.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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This proves what exactly?
That a National Football League organization looked into what he did, and determined that he DID have the experience to run an offense, contrary to what some here have claimed.
There is no way they did not speak to the coaches to get a feel for how big of a role Brady had, before deciding to hire him. Ed Orgeron said things publicly about Ensminger's role, more than likely out of respect. Same thing for everyone on that team. Nobody wants to come right out and say "yeah, Steve has the title of offensive coordinator, but this 30 year old guy is the engine".
That's the only way to logically rationalize those statements. If Ensminger were really "the guy" behind it all, NFL teams would have come for him. They did not.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Orgeron and Ensminger both said in 2018 that they wanted to send out more receivers but they felt the offensive line was too inexperienced to deal with blitzes.
And Brady said you deal with blitzes by giving your QB more passing options.
And that’s how almost every college offense that works attacks blitzes. When they blitz that leaves space. You run a quick route to that space and you’re QB hits the WR before the blitz gets to him:
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:34 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Orgeron and Ensminger both said in 2018 that they wanted to send out more receivers but they felt the offensive line was too inexperienced to deal with blitzes
good offensive coordinators spread teams out to combat inexperienced olines. not have more blockers which invites more defenders to the los. why is that so hard for you to understand
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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good offensive coordinators spread teams out to combat inexperienced olines. not have more blockers which invites more defenders to the los. why is that so hard for you to understand
Because thats not how it works.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
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They. Had. No. Chemistry. In. 2018.
Look at the hours these guys spent together in the offseason prior to 2019, they didnt have that prior to 2018.
holy shite.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:37 pm to SammyTiger
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And Brady said you deal with blitzes by giving your QB more passing options.
And that’s how almost every college offense that works attacks blitzes. When they blitz that leaves space. You run a quick route to that space and you’re QB hits the WR before the blitz gets to him:
Thats the idea but LSU's receivers werent good enough in 2018 and Burrow wasnt making reads fast enough.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Thats the idea but LSU's receivers werent good enough in 2018 and Burrow wasnt making reads fast enough
you have to be trolling at this.
look we saw what offense Ensminger could build. it was shite. one of the worst offenses since the turn of the century. we couldn't run the ball and couldn't throw the ball until the very end of the season when we played absolutely shite pass defenses.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Because thats not how it works.
it most certainly is.
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