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Stop posting the pneumonia drop graph

Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:24 am
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:24 am
I am seeing this pneumonia graph being posted EVERYWHERE to support the claim that pneumonia deaths are fraudulently being labelled as "Covid-19" deaths to pump up the numbers. People are pointing to the section I circled in purple here and saying it means pneumonia deaths have suddenly dropped, and that this is because of this fraud.



However, the following is an animated image through time of this same graph as if it had been created every week for the last few years. Notice how the end of the graph ALWAYS droops quite a bit into the current date.



This is because the CDC displays in data while it's still in progress of being collected, and it takes time for pneumonia death certificates and other paperwork to make it fully through the system. Stop sharing the misleading pneumonia graph and saying that pneumonia deaths have suddenly dropped.

I'm not saying Covid-19 numbers aren't being inflated. I'm not saying some people who officially died of Covid because they tested positive didn't actually die from other, more serious diseases. Both of these things are probably happening, but I don't think it is being done intentionally. I just want to specifically point out this single point of info and misinformation, and I'm not interested in arguing conspiracy theories in this thread.

Thanks!

Edit: I wish people would stop replying here, and following me to other threads, with things like "defend your virus, lib!" and "wow, you're desperate to make the virus as bad as possible so we stay locked down longer!" because I posted this thread. I'll go on record saying that I support opening up the country and monitoring problem areas as they come up, because we have successfully flattened the curve and hospitals are far from being at capacity. I am not pushing lockdown. I am pushing correct data.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:26 am to
Shut up.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:45 am to
quote:

please stop spreading this misleading image
That just makes them do it more.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83268 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Micropenis
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Shut up.


I'm disappointed to hear that from you, man. You are one of the people who talk sense, including posting reasonable stuff relating to pneumonia vs. Covid deaths and the accuracy of the numbers. This graph gets posted in one thread or another almost every day here, and it's been all over Facebook today.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 1:20 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:52 am to
Updated chart:





No worse than the flu.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:41 am to
Do you think all the "experts" involved in this "Pandemic" have been completely truthful at all times?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94832 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:53 am to
quote:

so I'm not interested in arguing those conspiracy theories.



Don't argue with people, then. It's a free country.

quote:

Stop posting the pneumonia drop graph


Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:09 am to
You’re better than this, man. Your stuff on COVID has been thoughtful and insightful. If this guy is wrong tell us why. I’ll admit I have no clue, but just typing shut up doesn’t help us understand or refute anything.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:11 am to
They won’t be happy about this

It’s either all or nothing with this crowd

The virus is a complete hoax, less deadly than the flu, masks don’t work, and deaths are being mislabeled.

It’s a package deal for them. They can’t accept that maybe it is deadlier than the flu, but we still should open up the economy. If someone tells them that they should wear a mask they look for any information to confirm their bias that it’s less deadly than the flu so they can tell you to frick off.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:12 am to
Defend your virus.

You forgot to post something about never challenging anything Fauci says
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:19 am to
Nice post, this board is hopeless - downvoting because they don't like what your saying but can't counter it. It's much easier to post facebook memes about how someone who died of a shark attack will be counted as a COVID death.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:21 am to
quote:

They can’t accept that maybe it is deadlier than the flu, but we still should open up the economy


This. For some reason they see that as incompatible.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:22 am to
Whataboutism. Is his post right or wrong?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154844 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:23 am to
All the covid cheerleaders made a showing?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109799 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:23 am to
Damn, looks like we’re in the midst of a nice precipitous drop there.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18950 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:24 am to
quote:

I'm not saying Covid-19 numbers aren't being inflated (even though I think they're not).


quote:

Microtiger


More like Microbrain.
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2652 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:25 am to
There used to be a mantra around here of “facts, not feelings”
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19559 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:26 am to
They’re staying at home to save someone
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Pneumonia numbers ALWAYS show this sloping drop at the end as processing and paperwork catches up.


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