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Stop posting the pneumonia drop graph
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:24 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:24 am
I am seeing this pneumonia graph being posted EVERYWHERE to support the claim that pneumonia deaths are fraudulently being labelled as "Covid-19" deaths to pump up the numbers. People are pointing to the section I circled in purple here and saying it means pneumonia deaths have suddenly dropped, and that this is because of this fraud.
However, the following is an animated image through time of this same graph as if it had been created every week for the last few years. Notice how the end of the graph ALWAYS droops quite a bit into the current date.
This is because the CDC displays in data while it's still in progress of being collected, and it takes time for pneumonia death certificates and other paperwork to make it fully through the system. Stop sharing the misleading pneumonia graph and saying that pneumonia deaths have suddenly dropped.
I'm not saying Covid-19 numbers aren't being inflated. I'm not saying some people who officially died of Covid because they tested positive didn't actually die from other, more serious diseases. Both of these things are probably happening, but I don't think it is being done intentionally. I just want to specifically point out this single point of info and misinformation, and I'm not interested in arguing conspiracy theories in this thread.
Thanks!
Edit: I wish people would stop replying here, and following me to other threads, with things like "defend your virus, lib!" and "wow, you're desperate to make the virus as bad as possible so we stay locked down longer!" because I posted this thread. I'll go on record saying that I support opening up the country and monitoring problem areas as they come up, because we have successfully flattened the curve and hospitals are far from being at capacity. I am not pushing lockdown. I am pushing correct data.
However, the following is an animated image through time of this same graph as if it had been created every week for the last few years. Notice how the end of the graph ALWAYS droops quite a bit into the current date.
This is because the CDC displays in data while it's still in progress of being collected, and it takes time for pneumonia death certificates and other paperwork to make it fully through the system. Stop sharing the misleading pneumonia graph and saying that pneumonia deaths have suddenly dropped.
I'm not saying Covid-19 numbers aren't being inflated. I'm not saying some people who officially died of Covid because they tested positive didn't actually die from other, more serious diseases. Both of these things are probably happening, but I don't think it is being done intentionally. I just want to specifically point out this single point of info and misinformation, and I'm not interested in arguing conspiracy theories in this thread.
Thanks!
Edit: I wish people would stop replying here, and following me to other threads, with things like "defend your virus, lib!" and "wow, you're desperate to make the virus as bad as possible so we stay locked down longer!" because I posted this thread. I'll go on record saying that I support opening up the country and monitoring problem areas as they come up, because we have successfully flattened the curve and hospitals are far from being at capacity. I am not pushing lockdown. I am pushing correct data.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:45 am to Microtiger
quote:That just makes them do it more.
please stop spreading this misleading image
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:49 am to the808bass
quote:
Shut up.
I'm disappointed to hear that from you, man. You are one of the people who talk sense, including posting reasonable stuff relating to pneumonia vs. Covid deaths and the accuracy of the numbers. This graph gets posted in one thread or another almost every day here, and it's been all over Facebook today.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 1:20 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:52 am to Microtiger
Updated chart:
No worse than the flu.
No worse than the flu.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:41 am to Microtiger
Do you think all the "experts" involved in this "Pandemic" have been completely truthful at all times?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:53 am to Microtiger
quote:
so I'm not interested in arguing those conspiracy theories.
Don't argue with people, then. It's a free country.
quote:
Stop posting the pneumonia drop graph

Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:09 am to the808bass
You’re better than this, man. Your stuff on COVID has been thoughtful and insightful. If this guy is wrong tell us why. I’ll admit I have no clue, but just typing shut up doesn’t help us understand or refute anything.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:11 am to Microtiger
They won’t be happy about this
It’s either all or nothing with this crowd
The virus is a complete hoax, less deadly than the flu, masks don’t work, and deaths are being mislabeled.
It’s a package deal for them. They can’t accept that maybe it is deadlier than the flu, but we still should open up the economy. If someone tells them that they should wear a mask they look for any information to confirm their bias that it’s less deadly than the flu so they can tell you to frick off.
It’s either all or nothing with this crowd
The virus is a complete hoax, less deadly than the flu, masks don’t work, and deaths are being mislabeled.
It’s a package deal for them. They can’t accept that maybe it is deadlier than the flu, but we still should open up the economy. If someone tells them that they should wear a mask they look for any information to confirm their bias that it’s less deadly than the flu so they can tell you to frick off.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:12 am to Microtiger
Defend your virus.
You forgot to post something about never challenging anything Fauci says
You forgot to post something about never challenging anything Fauci says
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:19 am to Microtiger
Nice post, this board is hopeless - downvoting because they don't like what your saying but can't counter it. It's much easier to post facebook memes about how someone who died of a shark attack will be counted as a COVID death.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:21 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
They can’t accept that maybe it is deadlier than the flu, but we still should open up the economy
This. For some reason they see that as incompatible.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:22 am to oogabooga68
Whataboutism. Is his post right or wrong?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:23 am to Korkstand
All the covid cheerleaders made a showing?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:23 am to Korkstand
Damn, looks like we’re in the midst of a nice precipitous drop there. 
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:24 am to Microtiger
quote:
I'm not saying Covid-19 numbers aren't being inflated (even though I think they're not).
quote:
Microtiger
More like Microbrain.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:25 am to Microtiger
There used to be a mantra around here of “facts, not feelings” 
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:26 am to roadGator
They’re staying at home to save someone
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:28 am to Microtiger
quote:
Pneumonia numbers ALWAYS show this sloping drop at the end as processing and paperwork catches up.

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